[Bacardi4206]

garabru garabru:

Once Quebec goes , Canada goes . B.C. does not give a hoot about Newfoundland and English Canada is somewhat reminiscent of the galimaufry that was Austria-Hungary. Canada would basically split by time zones : B.C. would become Northern California , Alberta through Ontario the Northern Midwest , the Maritimes Northern New England.

Confederations don't survive without geographic unity . When our British ancestors split the Indian Raj into India and Pakistan , the latter with two separate components to it (West and East) , it was only a matter of years until East Pakistan broke away and became Bengla Desh .

Fact of the matter is simple : without Quebec , there is no Canada . If Quebec is sent packing , it is a clear decision to go American , like it or not . So , what will it be : "Vive la différence" together , or just more bitter confrontation towards a rancorous break-up ? If tolerance prevails , Canada can still have its own distinct future as the big Switzerland of America.If not , the only key question is the liquidation exchange rate for the then-late Canadian dollar to the US dollar.

This has got to be the biggest ammount of bullshit I have ever seen in quite awhile.

Firstly, if Quebec goes. Canada does not go. Infact many Canadian's couldn't care less if Quebec went. The fact of the matter is, Quebec NEED's Canada. It's not the other way around. Quebecer's whine about there rights, and whine about separating and the politicians tries to ease this separatist talk by throwing money at it.

We don't do it because we NEED quebec, we do it because it would be idiotic to let a piece of Canada go due to separatist swine.

Secondly, Quebec would never join America. America would offer no language rights to Quebec. America has always been English only, and that won't change. Quebec would want to reserve there french speaking heritage so there only choice would be france. However I think even france is getting sick of Quebec.

Like or not, Quebec is stuck with Canada. Unless they were completly idiotic. This whole separatist thing is a big bunch of bullshit. IMO, they just keep it up so the government will throw more money at them.

Thirdly, America is going in the shitter economicly. Canada already has it's economic problems, but we actually aren't doing that bad considering. It would be pure idiotic, and suicide to merge with the United States and go down in the toilet with them. They will eventually bounce back, they always do however even if they go back to the economy they use to have. There is no reason why Canada should just give up as a country because America has a better economy, flashing there economy to us has never made us want to join them before.

All because Quebec want's to separate, and theres this coalition forming you all assume Canada is doomed? If so, than you all are idiots for thinking that.

That's like me saying America is going to die because there economy is dropping a lot, and they are going through a really hard time and will only get harder. Sound idiotic right? Think about how you look.

[Pimpbrewski]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Quebec won't leave - it hasn't and a majority of its population reject the silly notion of sovereignty-association or pure Independence.

Oh finally a reasonable post !

A majority of Quebecers do not even want sovereignty. Eventhough, it is often portrayed through the media. Only because a few separatists want it and are heard screaming about it, does not necessarily make it so.

[garabru]

Reply to Bacardi4206

I do understand the gentleman's urge to protect his job with the Canadian Forces . Whilst the Forces are per se highly respectable , I would suggest that Mr Bacardi4026

- learn the English language , with particular emphasis on the spelling . Speaking
proper English , and not some gutter dialect of it , is an obvious prerequisite for
engaging in high-level debate, let alone criticise those who speak other languages. Many "French" Quebecers I know could help the gentleman in his belated endeavour .

- try and pickup some manners along the way . Whilst the gentleman professes to
speak in favour of Canada remaining independent from the US ,the most illiterate
rednecks in the US Marines would find his language not worthy of respect and
the writer definitely not deserving , in their view ,of the honor of becoming
American.

[FireWire]

what do we do with Celing Dion?

[Arctic_Menace]

FireWire FireWire:

what do we do with Celing Dion?

Keep her isolated in Nevada.

[Bacardi4206]

garabru garabru:

Reply to Bacardi4206

I do understand the gentleman's urge to protect his job with the Canadian Forces . Whilst the Forces are per se highly respectable , I would suggest that Mr Bacardi4026

- learn the English language , with particular emphasis on the spelling . Speaking
proper English , and not some gutter dialect of it , is an obvious prerequisite for
engaging in high-level debate, let alone criticise those who speak other languages. Many "French" Quebecers I know could help the gentleman in his belated endeavour .

- try and pickup some manners along the way . Whilst the gentleman professes to
speak in favour of Canada remaining independent from the US ,the most illiterate
rednecks in the US Marines would find his language not worthy of respect and
the writer definitely not deserving , in their view ,of the honor of becoming
American.

You couldn't come up with a debate for what I said, so instead you chose to insult my writing? Classy.

Since you are telling me to pickup manners, maybe you should do the same because insulting the other person isn't classified as a debate. It's just being a pure asshole.

Maybe next time if you dislike my views, you should come up with a actual debate than insults. Unti'll next time I suppose.

[Bacardi4206]

Tegan Tegan:

garabru garabru:

Reply to Bacardi4206

I do understand the gentleman's urge to protect his job with the Canadian Forces . Whilst the Forces are per se highly respectable , I would suggest that Mr Bacardi4026

- learn the English language , with particular emphasis on the spelling . Speaking
proper English , and not some gutter dialect of it , is an obvious prerequisite for
engaging in high-level debate, let alone criticise those who speak other languages. Many "French" Quebecers I know could help the gentleman in his belated endeavour .

- try and pickup some manners along the way . Whilst the gentleman professes to
speak in favour of Canada remaining independent from the US ,the most illiterate
rednecks in the US Marines would find his language not worthy of respect and
the writer definitely not deserving , in their view ,of the honor of becoming
American.

Agreed. Your credibility is as high or as low as your level of literacy. Interesting that a lot of rednecks from both Canada and the US are only semi-literate.

Considering I am not a redneck, I will just take what you said as a sign of ignorance.

Proper english, and spelling has nothing to do with credibility. By your logic almost every single person in this forums is un-creditable seeing how not everybody has proper grammar or spelling.

Yet a lot of people here can still make valid points and debates, how is that possible? It's possible because you're just another person who chooses to insult me instead of debating me.

You and garabru can take your 'proper' english and shove it up your ass for all I care.

[Arctic_Menace]

Isn't it one of Godwin's Laws that bringing a person's spelling into question is nothing more than detracting from the issue(s) and poorly tries to imitate a "strawman argument"?

[PluggyRug]

garabru garabru:

Reply to Bacardi4206

I do understand the gentleman's urge to protect his job with the Canadian Forces . Whilst the Forces are per se highly respectable , I would suggest that Mr Bacardi4026

- learn the English language , with particular emphasis on the spelling . Speaking
proper English , and not some gutter dialect of it , is an obvious prerequisite for
engaging in high-level debate, let alone criticise those who speak other languages. Many "French" Quebecers I know could help the gentleman in his belated endeavour .

- try and pickup some manners along the way . Whilst the gentleman professes to
speak in favour of Canada remaining independent from the US ,the most illiterate
rednecks in the US Marines would find his language not worthy of respect and
the writer definitely not deserving , in their view ,of the honor of becoming
American.

Well sir your literacy will become a legend in the backroom of a Mickey D's.


Quebec will never separate, too bad the separatist empty vessels are again making most noise.

[llama66]

Garabru's prose reminds me of someone..... a cat perhaps? a fat, lazy cat?

[herbie]

By my narrow and self-serving interpretation of things, only provinces that were once self-governing states or colonies have the right to leave Confederation by 'voting' their way out. The Maritime provinces and BC, and perhaps the original Upper and Lower Canada could attempt to remove their small chunk of the current configuration.
That being said, any Province trying to do so should be treated will all the respect given the CSA by the Union.

[Jamie_]

Another idea would be for some American stated to seceed from the USA and become Canadian Provinces. Too many of our American politicians are morons, liars, thieves and/or psycotic.

In Canada you seem to have a better way.

[roger-roger]

Tell ya what we'll trade the Maritimes for Alaska

[garabru]

llama66 llama66:

Garabru's prose reminds me of someone..... a cat perhaps? a fat, lazy cat?

It just so happens that Garfield is American. I don't remember Americans quoting from Canadian culture . If you get your every day culture from the US , what's your identity ? What makes you not-American ? (other than American disdain toward Canada )

As the royal English motto goes : "Honi soit qui mal y pense".

[Laurentides]

"Well, yeah, that's my first choice, too. But the fact of life is that the Quebecers will eventually leave because they keep agitating for it."

Funny. It takes for granted that Quebec will soon secede. Why should it be? As long as Quebec's language and cultural aspects are secured, there won't be any problems. Separatists like Pauline Marois or Gilles Duceppe might get excited from time to time but this is just because they don't have anything else to show to their electorate. A bit like all those Quebec-bashing loosers that are looking for scapegoats for their own failures...