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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:06 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
Please elaborate.


The problems (food, energy crisis, etc.) facing humanity are huge and growing. If markets are not a device that allows humanity to rethink deeply its way of life, they will vanish.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:09 am
 


How can a market vanish?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:40 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
How can a market vanish?


Markets are a recent and fragile social institution. They require a very special type of competition to be able to solve economic problems. They can disappear if the competition become such that producers and/or consumers are killed when they manifest themselves in public. They can also disappear if economic agents start to cooperate together.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:06 am
 


Pretty irritating when people only answer with one sentence, isn’t it.

Whenever there are sellers and buyers, there is a market, be that for food, fuel or illegal products. As long as there is sufficient demand, there will be suppliers willing to take the risks to make that profit.

If pot plants were grown and used by the end user, there is no profit to be had, just like the chamomile.

The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:11 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
Pretty irritating when people only answer with one sentence, isn’t it.


A paragraph is a bigger investment than a sentence.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:14 am
 


Oh, so we're back to this glib shit again?
Nevermind. I'm not playing this game.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:21 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


Because hemp is a forbidden natural resource, what you call "outrageous profit" is in fact an economic rent.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:26 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


So, what does that have to do with Hemp?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:29 am
 


Dr Caleb Dr Caleb:
ridenrain ridenrain:
The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


So, what does that have to do with Hemp?


Because, the only reason the article is posted is because of the "recreational" use of hemp, not for the industrial or agricultural uses, which is completely legal in 30 countries, like Canada, and even the US has experiments with the hemp plant.

The arguments the original poster made no sense, and once again his reasonings literally had nothing to do with hemp at all. If the article was truly about hemp usage, then there would be a topic, but there isn't.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:32 am
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
Pretty irritating when people only answer with one sentence, isn’t it.

Whenever there are sellers and buyers, there is a market, be that for food, fuel or illegal products. As long as there is sufficient demand, there will be suppliers willing to take the risks to make that profit.

If pot plants were grown and used by the end user, there is no profit to be had, just like the chamomile.

The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


"Organised crime"
WoW! What a concept!
I have no difficulty what-so-ever in extending the concept into Banking, Law, religion and various of what is accepted as morality
That the thread has doglegged off into one use of a plant that can be bred for fiber or for its psycho-active ingredient is no surprise It was the first entrant to this thread that went all anal and with the linited visopm of one so narrowminded her(?) cas see theough a keyhoe with both eyes started ranting about the psycho active aspect

Nobody gets a gun held to their head and forced to do psycho active substances


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:33 am
 


Dr Caleb Dr Caleb:
ridenrain ridenrain:
The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


So, what does that have to do with Hemp?


Indeed, money made by organized crime is about socially-induced scarcity.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:37 am
 


Diogenes Diogenes:
ridenrain ridenrain:
Pretty irritating when people only answer with one sentence, isn’t it.

Whenever there are sellers and buyers, there is a market, be that for food, fuel or illegal products. As long as there is sufficient demand, there will be suppliers willing to take the risks to make that profit.

If pot plants were grown and used by the end user, there is no profit to be had, just like the chamomile.

The problem is that 99% of the drugs grown here are not for personal use but for smuggling into the US for outrageous profit. This is the domain of organized crime and the cause of most of the crime in BC.


"Organised crime"
WoW! What a concept!
I have no difficulty what-so-ever in extending the concept into Banking, Law, religion and various of what is accepted as morality
That the thread has doglegged off into one use of a plant that can be bred for fiber or for its psycho-active ingredient is no surprise It was the first entrant to this thread that went all anal and with the linited visopm of one so narrowminded her(?) cas see theough a keyhoe with both eyes started ranting about the psycho active aspect

Nobody gets a gun held to their head and forced to do psycho active substances


My God man you still haven't argued ANYTHING. This thread was nowhere with your original damn post. And my "linited visopm of one so narrowminded her(?) cas see theough a keyhoe with both eyes started ranting about the psycho active aspect" never actually happened. That's what your original damn post did.

You didn't argue anything at all. Neither did your original post, and you blame ME for this? I went on about the sheer idiocy of the article's claims without any support of fact. The "Weed cures cancer!" was called MOCKERY. I mocked and imitated the original link.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:42 am
 


Diogenes Diogenes:
Nobody gets a gun held to their head and forced to do psycho active substances


No, but approximately 1 in 4 Canadians has been affected by crime and:

$1:
In 2005, more than 140,000 property crimes, costing $125 million, were reported in Vancouver, the large majority committed by a small number of criminals involved in drugs.


Almost all of the murders in BC are believed to be drug related too.

Again.. another grade 10 student thinking it's cool to argue for the legalization of drugs. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:45 am
 


Since hemp is yet another natural resource, applying the lockean proviso will solve much of the problems about it.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:48 am
 


Since no one is shooting each other over cotton for clothes and canola for oil, I don't see why this alternative is so nessesary.


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