[Diogenes]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Diogenes Diogenes:

Nobody gets a gun held to their head and forced to do psycho active substances

No, but approximately 1 in 4 Canadians has been affected by crime and:

$1:

In 2005, more than 140,000 property crimes, costing $125 million, were reported in Vancouver, the large majority committed by a small number of criminals involved in drugs.

Almost all of the murders in BC are believed to be drug related too.

Again.. another grade 10 student thinking it's cool to argue for the legalization of drugs.

Your response is the old red herring non sequitur gaff

Seeing as you want to persist in lumping all drugs and crime to gether add booze add Doctor's drugs from big pharma
add Dope inc. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... ope+Inc%2e

add the CIA and crack cocaine http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... ck+Cocaine

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... ocumentary

there is more of course and none of it is a justification, But Bud ya really need to do your research on who's who in the zoo be fore you go all organised crime on on ud

Every time you do a bank transaction you support "organised crime"
Every time you vote, ditto
every time some country sells out to the IMF or the world bank ... Organised crime!

we are drowning in a sea of organised crime and most are so brain diertied that refuse to see it

I have no idea where you are getting your data but it won't stand even the megerest of scrutiny

[Diogenes]

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... ancer+cure



http://www.youtube.com/chrychek



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz= ... +and+China

[commanderkai]

Diogenes Diogenes:

An amazing bit of tautology there, Clair. In case you missed it I have no desire to "debate" "argue" or anyother mind warp you so want to enter into. There is no blame directed towards you.

What you believe is the mockery
Man! You're hilarious with the 4 20 bit

I'll make this simple:

WHY DID YOU POST THE ARTICLE?

[Diogenes]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Diogenes Diogenes:

An amazing bit of tautology there, Clair. In case you missed it I have no desire to "debate" "argue" or anyother mind warp you so want to enter into. There is no blame directed towards you.

What you believe is the mockery
Man! You're hilarious with the 4 20 bit

I'll make this simple:

WHY DID YOU POST THE ARTICLE?

Simple is as simple does
Well ya see Buddy boy I just knew there would be some anal retentive know it all dumb-ass withpout the brains god gave a goose who would curse rant rave and perform all kindsa anti-social trick if i could just find the right bait for him to rise to
I posted the article because I posted the article.

Just like yoy bahave like an ass because you behave like an ass
or maybe I had some other motive, or maybe not

thepoint is
...

[commanderkai]

You have no point. You failed at any logical discourse. So therefore, you wasted our times with the thought you would provide a reasonable debate, and you didn't.

God if you had a point to bring out, or ANYTHING at all, then I wouldn't be so harsh, but I feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.

[Diogenes]

commanderkai commanderkai:

You have no point. You failed at any logical discourse. So therefore, you wasted our times with the thought you would provide a reasonable debate, and you didn't.

God if you had a point to bring out, or ANYTHING at all, then I wouldn't be so harsh, but I feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.

That I chose not to present any points on the multiple uses of the hemp plant in no way shows whether I have ownership of a point or not, but you are too busy playing the "know it all" to figuare that one out.
You repeated ly state I have no point so I gave you what you know: no point

I simplely do not like the way you presented yourself on this topic, that is my prerogative


Don't lay that "wouldn't be so harsh" Boogee Woogee on me me Bro
You started off like some prick with a bean up his ass and I chosse to, for the most part, ignore you.
I neither failed nor won as I choose to not do discourse, for the most part, with you. so suck it up

My guess is you much prefer (social) intercourse with ten year olds Just like you can hide behind the internet and act big tough and intelligent

You are none of those, only some wimpy jack off with a hard on for misery

[ridenrain]

Well. In light of this clever debate, let me go back to my first post:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Because this is in the Canada/US relations section, I'm guessing Diogenes will see this as a good reason for the US to change their drug laws. Yeah.. good luck with that..

commanderkai is right. This is silly. Why do most of te arguments for legalizing drugs all sound like their written by grade 10 dope smokers?

[commanderkai]

Diogenes Diogenes:

commanderkai commanderkai:

You have no point. You failed at any logical discourse. So therefore, you wasted our times with the thought you would provide a reasonable debate, and you didn't.

God if you had a point to bring out, or ANYTHING at all, then I wouldn't be so harsh, but I feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old.

That I chose not to present any points on the multiple uses of the hemp plant in no way shows whether I have ownership of a point or not, but you are too busy playing the "know it all" to figuare that one out.
You repeated ly state I have no point so I gave you what you know: no point

I simplely do not like the way you presented yourself on this topic, that is my prerogative


Don't lay that "wouldn't be so harsh" Boogee Woogee on me me Bro
You started off like some prick with a bean up his ass and I chosse to, for the most part, ignore you.
I neither failed nor won as I choose to not do discourse, for the most part, with you. so suck it up

My guess is you much prefer (social) intercourse with ten year olds Just like you can hide behind the internet and act big tough and intelligent

You are none of those, only some wimpy jack off with a hard on for misery

Ignoring the fact you just insulted and made more assumptions about me without any actual statements to back your statement up.

Oh and btw, what topic? There was no topic. You posted an article, and when I asked for a topic, you did nothing but insults. You failed to support the cause that you must of supported with that little extra information about yourself at the end.

You post something, then ignore anything to the contrary to critical to you. You completely won this.

At least Ridenrain beamed in some common sense with this as well. Thanks for that, since this literally was full of crap since the beginning article.

Oh and yes I am an arrogant prick, just like you are. However, unlike you, I have justification for my arrogance since I refuted just about everything that article stated, and for the most part didn't make this into a personal vendetta.

But of course, be jealous on the Internet. It suits you since I would assume you have no actual debate skills, or even know what a stance or topic is.

[Knoss]

$1:

As commanderkai pointed out, hemp is already a legal crop for Canadian farmers.
We've also seen that it has very limited comercial value, otherwise it would be more popular.

There can be no question however that a great ammount of the crime and violence in Canadian society is caused by organized crime and the illegal drug industry.

True, the only reasons I can see for legalizing drugs are reducing deathers due to quality issues, reducing price to elminate property crimes, and elminate organized crime. There is no benefit to people using or starting to use these drugs.

[Benoit]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Benoit Benoit:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Benoit Benoit:

ridenrain ridenrain:

You’re simply ignoring the fact that hemp has no practical economic value except as a drug.

The valuing process is more complex than you think. For instance, imagine the tobacco lobby gone and you will see hemp with new eyes.

If we ban tobacco...which piece by piece is getting banned. So...why would we legalize pot?

We are only banning tobacco from the public sphere because the smoke prevents people to master the events that are affecting them as independent individuals.

Soo...then why do you think if we can ban ciggs from the public sphere...that weed will enter the public sphere?

Weed enters the public sphere as a political movement not as a substance.

[Diogenes]

commanderkai commanderkai:

Oh and how the fuck is Hemp the cure all problem for oil and food crisis? I can make damn shit up too. WEED WOULD SOLVE ALL VIOLENCE IN INNER CITIES! WEED CURES CANCER! WEED MAKES ME GOD! Yeah none of that shit makes sense, he doesn't even argue how weed solves anything. Its two separate issues

And this would be your idea of rational discussion would it?
Right out of the chute you behave like a bull with its balls cincheddouble tight and then demand rational discourse. You bellow like the enraged bull, peper your post with profanities, critisize how the writer makes he presentation and go down hill from there.


Debate? more like a back alley street fight,

Ok back from my running around and visiting and speaking from a different perspsective..
Hemp production has merit.
Bear with me on this
There are multiple uses for the processed plant

You ask how hemp will cure all the problems
? It won't and nothing will
solve "all the problems"

Your thionking is skewed feom that idea one and you are the one not making sense. in my eyes.
so there can be no debate
I willnot counter your false claim in the manner you expect

Nor will I discuss the merits of anything with someone with no ears to here.
You are just another parade pisser
and need no convincing
or need to be won over
to "my" side/
You are dead wood!

What more is there to say?

[Diogenes]

and further more!

Hehe Ho Ho


Here’s hoping that a mood was struck by the words of the song.

What my intent was to evoke discourse.
Mission accomplished!

What I saw as counter-claims to hemp production are patently false.

Whether of not there are put smokers is moot. So long as full responsibility for ones actions are observed.

And that is the biggie

The rest is gravy.
Hemp can fill a space on multiple levels

It is a Bio devisable plant, a weed (as in, You got some weed. Man?) balms
Salves et al.

I hear
Bob Marley
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Preacher man don't tell me
Heaven is under the earth
I know you don't know
What life is really worth
It's not all that glitters is gold
Half the story has never been told
So now you see the light
[ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/ab9 ]
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Most people think
Great God will come from the skies
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You would look for yours on earth
And now you've seen the light
You stand up for your rights

My rights to take pleasure supersede your right to prevent me taking pleasure.
Get used to it!
Your inept counter-claims speak hollow.
They have no body, no just cause.
Quo warrento?
By whose authority do you disturb my peace?
In this I am sovereign!
The superior is above the inferior
You are of no standing
You are Wilhelm Reich’s “Little Man.”

You ask for what you have not gotten and may never have: Insight.
It is the way you say it is, and so it is!
Would you accept any other?
After the claims of use from the hemp plant were manifest,
All else was moot.

Accusations based on assumption and presumption
Ring hollow.

Ergo, Non-sensible.

So? Ahh? ... ah...
Why ya being a Bitch?

[RUEZ]

Diogenes Diogenes:

and further more!

Hehe Ho Ho


Here’s hoping that a mood was struck by the words of the song.

What my intent was to evoke discourse.
Mission accomplished!

What I saw as counter-claims to hemp production are patently false.

Whether of not there are put smokers is moot. So long as full responsibility for ones actions are observed.

And that is the biggie

The rest is gravy.
Hemp can fill a space on multiple levels

It is a Bio devisable plant, a weed (as in, You got some weed. Man?) balms
Salves et al.

I hear
Bob Marley
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Preacher man don't tell me
Heaven is under the earth
I know you don't know
What life is really worth
It's not all that glitters is gold
Half the story has never been told
So now you see the light
[ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/ab9 ]
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Most people think
Great God will come from the skies
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You would look for yours on earth
And now you've seen the light
You stand up for your rights

My rights to take pleasure supersede your right to prevent me taking pleasure.
Get used to it!
Your inept counter-claims speak hollow.
They have no body, no just cause.
Quo warrento?
By whose authority do you disturb my peace?
In this I am sovereign!
The superior is above the inferior
You are of no standing
You are Wilhelm Reich’s “Little Man.”

You ask for what you have not gotten and may never have: Insight.
It is the way you say it is, and so it is!
Would you accept any other?
After the claims of use from the hemp plant were manifest,
All else was moot.

Accusations based on assumption and presumption
Ring hollow.

Ergo, Non-sensible.

So? Ahh? ... ah...
Why ya being a Bitch?

What?

[Diogenes]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Diogenes Diogenes:

and further more!

Hehe Ho Ho


Here’s hoping that a mood was struck by the words of the song.

What my intent was to evoke discourse.
Mission accomplished!

What I saw as counter-claims to hemp production are patently false.

Whether of not there are put smokers is moot. So long as full responsibility for ones actions are observed.

And that is the biggie

The rest is gravy.
Hemp can fill a space on multiple levels

It is a Bio devisable plant, a weed (as in, You got some weed. Man?) balms
Salves et al.

I hear
Bob Marley
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Preacher man don't tell me
Heaven is under the earth
I know you don't know
What life is really worth
It's not all that glitters is gold
Half the story has never been told
So now you see the light
[ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/ab9 ]
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Most people think
Great God will come from the skies
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You would look for yours on earth
And now you've seen the light
You stand up for your rights

My rights to take pleasure supersede your right to prevent me taking pleasure.
Get used to it!
Your inept counter-claims speak hollow.
They have no body, no just cause.
Quo warrento?
By whose authority do you disturb my peace?
In this I am sovereign!
The superior is above the inferior
You are of no standing
You are Wilhelm Reich’s “Little Man.”

You ask for what you have not gotten and may never have: Insight.
It is the way you say it is, and so it is!
Would you accept any other?
After the claims of use from the hemp plant were manifest,
All else was moot.

Accusations based on assumption and presumption
Ring hollow.

Ergo, Non-sensible.

So? Ahh? ... ah...
Why ya being a Bitch?

What?

Ya "Missed it"
Nuff said

[RUEZ]

Diogenes Diogenes:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Diogenes Diogenes:

and further more!

Hehe Ho Ho


Here’s hoping that a mood was struck by the words of the song.

What my intent was to evoke discourse.
Mission accomplished!

What I saw as counter-claims to hemp production are patently false.

Whether of not there are put smokers is moot. So long as full responsibility for ones actions are observed.

And that is the biggie

The rest is gravy.
Hemp can fill a space on multiple levels

It is a Bio devisable plant, a weed (as in, You got some weed. Man?) balms
Salves et al.

I hear
Bob Marley
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Preacher man don't tell me
Heaven is under the earth
I know you don't know
What life is really worth
It's not all that glitters is gold
Half the story has never been told
So now you see the light
[ Find more Lyrics at www.mp3lyrics.org/ab9 ]
Stand up for your rights

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight

Most people think
Great God will come from the skies
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high
But if you know what life is worth
You would look for yours on earth
And now you've seen the light
You stand up for your rights

My rights to take pleasure supersede your right to prevent me taking pleasure.
Get used to it!
Your inept counter-claims speak hollow.
They have no body, no just cause.
Quo warrento?
By whose authority do you disturb my peace?
In this I am sovereign!
The superior is above the inferior
You are of no standing
You are Wilhelm Reich’s “Little Man.”

You ask for what you have not gotten and may never have: Insight.
It is the way you say it is, and so it is!
Would you accept any other?
After the claims of use from the hemp plant were manifest,
All else was moot.

Accusations based on assumption and presumption
Ring hollow.

Ergo, Non-sensible.

So? Ahh? ... ah...
Why ya being a Bitch?

What?

Ya "Missed it"
Nuff said

OOh I love it when cool people say "nuff said".