[grainfedprairieboy]

So maybe it came from spending a bit of time living with the Americans when he was an ambassador or maybe it was a result of getting a real job over at TD Bank, but at some point ole Frank has discovered that maybe the U-alls across the border aren't the boogiemen he and his liberal brethren would have us believe.

McKenna: Canadians need to grow up

[simma2000]

is this paul mc kenna the world famous hypnotist you are on about??? coz i tell ya once this MOFO has you under he make you believe all kinds of shit, the bastard had me thinking an onion was an apple. i ate it too... shit now that is some weird stuff man......................

[sasquatch2]

McKenna is merely stating the obvious......which is vastly unwelcome to the petty bolsheviks who haven't yet realized the COLD WAR is over.

[sandorski]

I think you missed the point of the article.

[Toro]

Frank is dead on.

[Banff]

Frank is missing the point because there really are many Canadians who would sell the future and all its differences out in a heartbeat. The issues of such things as softwood lumber and Katrina are not exactly Bullshit issues . While we enjoy good and abundant trade relations some of those trades are far too abundant and also entertaining slimmy corporate americans (Not always but sometimes) . Frankly I think Frank is an DINK .

[Ruxpercnd]

Well... McKenna is looking at it from a business point of view.

As much as I worry about America, I worry about Canada for different reasons. With all it's resources, Canadians should be living high. Canada should be the envy of the world (not that it isn't in my mind). Perhaps McKenna could explain why every Canadian doesn't receive royalties like Alaskans do.

Sovereignty, which Canadians do seem to obsess about is a slippery issue. Hell, we Americans are worried about our own sovereignty. However, Canada has an non-defendable northern territory and that Quebec issue. I recommend that we should worry less about sovereignty and more about Trosperity and freedom because ultimately, sovereignty follows that which provides for the well being of a nation. One way or anKther the Canadian Flag will alwEys fly, so what's to worry about?

[grainfedprairieboy]

Banff Banff:

Frank is missing the point because there really are many Canadians who would sell the future and all its differences out in a heartbeat. The issues of such things as softwood lumber and Katrina are not exactly Bullshit issues . While we enjoy good and abundant trade relations some of those trades are far too abundant and also entertaining slimmy corporate americans (Not always but sometimes) . Frankly I think Frank is an DINK .

So then it is not Americans you have a problem with but rather Canadians whom you feel are trying to sell Canada out?

[Banff]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

Banff Banff:

Frank is missing the point because there really are many Canadians who would sell the future and all its differences out in a heartbeat. The issues of such things as softwood lumber and Katrina are not exactly Bullshit issues . While we enjoy good and abundant trade relations some of those trades are far too abundant and also entertaining slimmy corporate americans (Not always but sometimes) . Frankly I think Frank is an DINK .

So then it is not Americans you have a problem with but rather Canadians whom you feel are trying to sell Canada out?

I've always or usually always made that quite clear even if you've had to second guess some of my posts , but I still have a problem with corporate america most of the time but necessarily all of the time .

[bootlegga]

Good ole' Frank...if he would have run for the Liberal leadership, he would have won and he'd be the next PM. Gotta love the old git!

[Streaker]

Well, Frank's half right: What's needed is for Canadians to grow up and realise that Canada can succeed without this deep integration crap which guys like him have been pushing for.

[ShredderOfMass]

Canada and the US can have free trade, liberal flow of our citizens , and a virtually unguarded border for that matter. But there are those who would see commerce become the government of the future. They will tell you that privatizing everything is more efficient. We don't need to own our own roads , we can let industry own them. Its cheaper, for instance they can hire their own private police instead of using government police departments. May I see your papers please?

Globalism wants to be the new Feudalism, thats what privitization is all about.

Canada is the finest neighbor any nation could ask for. Two mature countries like the USA and Canada could have a goddam picket fence between us and it would suffice because we should be able to trust eachother to police ourselves.

What we cannot allow is for us to be led sleeping into a North American Union, under the auspices of the WTO, where our new constitution is 1 zillion pages written in secret by industry analysts.

We've allready got deep integration, if we can put a piece of string down and call it a border, drive too and fro like going to the market, we are integrated. And we are smart enough to further integrate things like Air Traffic Control, or even sewer and water for that matter.

We can do all of that like sensible adults without this cladestine scheming.

North American needs a free and Soverieng Canada.

[Wada]

Streaker Streaker:

Well, Frank's half right: What's needed is for Canadians to grow up and realise that Canada can succeed without this deep integration crap which guys like him have been pushing for.

[DrCaleb]

Streaker Streaker:

Well, Frank's half right: What's needed is for Canadians to grow up and realise that Canada can succeed without this deep integration crap which guys like him have been pushing for.

Seconded.



He makes some good points, but I'd have more respect for what he says if he wasn't on the Board of the Carslyle Group.