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You should read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shrier. It's 1000 pages and offers a meticulously researched document of this... if you are interested in History like me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_a ... hird_ReichBut to be more specific regarding this incident... to save you the trouble of buying the book, which is regarded as an accurate and comprehensive historical account... here is a link. It was called the Gleiwitz incident, and is no CT. It was documented in the Nuremburg trials and stands as accurate to the official account.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incidentSo....How does this compare to Bush again?
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If you do just a little bit of research on the Patriot Act, I think you'll find much to be concerned with...
Bart, Yank-in-NY, Stratos, You guys feel you have had your right infringed upon?
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if you are being critical of it in such a way as to see how this kind of legislation can be abused by the government, at the expense of the American people. I could write a whole thesis on this topic alone, and attach links for days. If you truly only believe that this affects rights to privacy and ones ability to carry on a bottle of gatorade in an airplane... then I can only encourage you to do some research here first, and then I would be happy to address this more indepth with you.
You never provide anything. You only encourage we do our own research. That isn't how it works. Please do provide something.
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So....How does this compare to Bush again?
I was merely reponding to your question, regarding this being a CT, which it isn't. In the context of how this compares to Bush - it was an event used to inspire new security measures and sweeping changes that impacted freedoms and liberties in Germany at the time.
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You only encourage we do our own research. That isn't how it works. Please do provide something.
I need to run out of the office since I have an appointment with my accountant... so I'll start by providing this nice little article/analysis. Try not to be critical, right out of the gate with the source. Read it with an open mind, and then come back with your comments. Note that Alex Jones was one of the first to bring the Patriot Act into the light through his insider information channels, etc.
This is a perfect example of Calgary123's inability to think.
Note exactly what he does and how he does it.
First step. Recognize that Bush America is the same as Nazi Germany.
Second step. Decide that the invasion of Poland = the invasion of Iraq. Decide that the Reichstag fire = the World Trade Center. Decide that the Patriot Act = whatever legislation is was that authorized the Gestapo.
Third step. Proudly proclaim that the United States is Nazi Germany.
For Calgary 123, this is thinking. In fact, to him, this is grand and subtle thinking. It is probably better than anything he can do on his own, so to him it is impressive.
This is not, however, thinking at all.
First, (and this is easy), none of the parallels are quite really parallels. The invasion of Poland was done by a nation intending to acquire permanent new territory, and done after promises not to do it, and done with a perfect faith that the current residents were lesser beings not entitled to the land.
None of which applies to Iraq. The Reichstag Fire was a known ploy, the Woirld Trade Center was impossible to fake. And on and on.
The parallels are quick and superficial, and have no real substance. Although they do fool the cursory reader.
One of the best examples of this kind of illusion construction is in Erik Von Daniken's ancient alien astronaut theories, where the same kind of false parallels, faulty analogies, and crap reasoning are put together to support a theory that aliens built the great pyramids, et c.
The fascinating thing is this and hundreds of other Calgary123 posts, it's always 'we're going to compare them because we think they're the same', and 'our comparison has now shown they were the same.'
I could compare Jessica Alba to a horse, (they both have teeth, they're both brownish, they both eat food, they both are composed of bone and muscle and blood and other stuff, they both make high pitched whinnying noises when excited, etc.), and then conclude that Jessica Alba is a horse.
What's wrong with that kind of thinking? Well, why am I comparing her to a horse in the first place? Aren't I just proving a conclusion I wanted to reach in the first place?
This isn't brilliant genius, this is really dumb and wrong.
But second, and this is more important, real thinking would involve analysis and comparison. What was Naziism? How did it function? What were the institutional underpinnings, what were the social conditions that created an environment that allowed it to flourish?
Then you do the same thing all over again with the United States,
And only then are you in a position to note silimarities and differences.
You analyse one for it's actual distinctive features, you analyse the other for it's actual, distinctive features, and only then are you in a position to begin a comparison.
That is thinking. That's what thinking is like, and what it needs to be.
This kind of metaphoric analogizing by Calgary123 is nothing but articluated stupidity.
This is all just hot air, as sensible as a WTC conspiracy theory. Or as sensible as saying the Jews run the world. Or that it's all a plot by big oil.
Calgary1123 has read some websites which titilated his imagination, but did not explain, or educate. That's all that's going on here.
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