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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:18 pm
 


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so ok.. i am an american part canadian :P but ok i am going to be turning 19 in a few months and i am planning another trip to the lovely land of fun and happiness know to most as canada but anyways 19 is the legal age to buy beer right ? and do you think they would selll to me cause i mean the reason i am buying in there would be because i cant get it in this dumb country? just want your thoughts :D


No, 'dumb' would be being able to legally drink while still in high school.


When did legality ever stop high school students from drinking? Shit in Grade 12 we skipped Math 300 to go see rippers. Fuck quadratic equations, trig and calculus, beer and naked chicks were much more educational.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:25 pm
 


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MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
holymoly holymoly:
so ok.. i am an american part canadian :P but ok i am going to be turning 19 in a few months and i am planning another trip to the lovely land of fun and happiness know to most as canada but anyways 19 is the legal age to buy beer right ? and do you think they would selll to me cause i mean the reason i am buying in there would be because i cant get it in this dumb country? just want your thoughts :D


No, 'dumb' would be being able to legally drink while still in high school.


When did legality ever stop high school students from drinking? Shit in Grade 12 we skipped Math 300 to go see rippers. Fuck quadratic equations, trig and calculus, beer and naked chicks were much more educational.


Just because people break laws doesn't mean we shouldn't have them. Alcohol at a younger age is detrimental to the body.


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MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
No, 'dumb' would be being able to legally drink while still in high school.


Wheres the middle finger emoticon...

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One thing that bugs me in those American teen movies is that alcohol is so easily available. Is that true?


Not that easily, (of course it depends on who you know and how well you know them) but you have to wait until they want to buy liquor, or until their in a very generous mood.

But thats only part of the battle, there are three things which need to come together at the same time, the people to drink with, the location to drink, and the actual stuff to drink. So its somewhat difficult.

Whats worse, most park rangers get all pissy about drinking in campgrounds.

On the other hand, if you go to a big enough congregation of high school/college age people, you can simply ask "anyone have liquor" or "anyone have pot" and you can usually get something together.

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Really though, don't get too drunk. ;)


Bah, what else is public transit for?


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Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
No, 'dumb' would be being able to legally drink while still in high school.


Wheres the middle finger emoticon...


What do you need it for?


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MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
holymoly holymoly:
so ok.. i am an american part canadian :P but ok i am going to be turning 19 in a few months and i am planning another trip to the lovely land of fun and happiness know to most as canada but anyways 19 is the legal age to buy beer right ? and do you think they would selll to me cause i mean the reason i am buying in there would be because i cant get it in this dumb country? just want your thoughts :D


No, 'dumb' would be being able to legally drink while still in high school.


When did legality ever stop high school students from drinking? Shit in Grade 12 we skipped Math 300 to go see rippers. Fuck quadratic equations, trig and calculus, beer and naked chicks were much more educational.


Just because people break laws doesn't mean we shouldn't have them. Alcohol at a younger age is detrimental to the body.


It is at older ages too.


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MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
Just because people break laws doesn't mean we shouldn't have them. Alcohol at a younger age is detrimental to the body.


Based on what study? The MADD study which tested rats which arguably have different livers, and injected them with the equivalent of 8 beers in a few minutes? It is only detrimental at high concentrations, at low concentrations a persons liver can handle it just fine.

I drink alcohol yet I'm smarter, more physically fit, and a better person then any neo-prohibitionist you can find. (Did I mention more arrogant?)


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Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
Just because people break laws doesn't mean we shouldn't have them. Alcohol at a younger age is detrimental to the body.


Based on what study? The MADD study which tested rats which arguably have different livers, and injected them with the equivalent of 8 beers in a few minutes?

I drink alcohol yet I'm smarter, more physically fit, and a better person then any neo-prohibitionist you can find. (Did I mention more arrogant?)


Some suppose it might be better to find out who has the alcoholic-gene at a younger age when rebelliousness would lead down dusty roads, but I do not live in that world which some would allow.


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MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
Some suppose it might be better to find out who has the alcoholic-gene at a younger age when rebelliousness would lead down dusty roads, but I do not live in that world which some would allow.


Since when are we talking about alcoholism, I was speaking about responsible drinking. Now there is a big difference between the two, that anyone, save the most fanatical of the prohibitionist zealots can see.


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Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
Some suppose it might be better to find out who has the alcoholic-gene at a younger age when rebelliousness would lead down dusty roads, but I do not live in that world which some would allow.


Since when are we talking about alcoholism, I was speaking about responsible drinking. Now there is a big difference between the two, that anyone, save the most fanatical of the prohibitionist zealots can see.


Those who begin drinking at a younger age are more prone to alcoholism.

And besides, as was stated, it would be found at a younger age who has the gene if indeed all were allowed to drink at a younger age. Now or later.


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MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
Those who begin drinking at a younger age are more prone to alcoholism.


Really? So how come europe seems to get by just fine?

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And besides, as was stated, it would be found at a younger age who has the gene if indeed all were allowed to drink at a younger age. Now or later.


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Minimum Legal Drinking Age Myth

by David J. Hanson, Ph.D.

The minimum legal drinking age (MLDA) myth is perpetuated by the federal government through the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, (HHS) 1, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) 2, the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA) 3, and other federal agencies. The myth is also perpetuated by private groups such as Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) 4 and the American Medical Association (AMA) 5.

The minimum legal drinking age myth was probably started by the misleading title of the federal legislation (Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984) that required states to establish the minimum purchase age and the minimum public possession age at 21. In spite of its title, the act did not require the minimum age to be set at 21.

Nineteen states have not passed legislation setting the minimum drinking age at 21. And many of the states that have established a minimum drinking age at 21 provide a variety of exception to that law. Commonly the exceptions apply to drinking under parental supervision, drinking for religious purposes, consuming alcohol for health or medical purposes when prescribed by a physician, or for drinking with a spouse age 21 or older. 6

There are important reasons for these exceptions. For example, federally funded research has found that drinking with parents is a “protective factor” against alcohol abuse. Teenagers who reported drinking alcohol with their parents were less likely than others to have either consumed alcohol or abused it in recent weeks according to a nation-wide study of over 6,200 teenagers in 242 communities across the U.S.

Drinking alcohol with parents “may help teach them responsible drinking habits or extinguish some of the ‘novelty’ or ‘excitement’ of drinking” according to senior researcher Dr. Kristie Long Foley of the School of Medicine at Wake Forest University. Dr. Foley describes drinking with parents as a “protective” behavior. 7

This finding is to be expected. Those societies and cultural groups with very high rates of drinking but very low rates of alcohol-related problems have certain common keys to success. One such protective key is that in such groups young people learn about moderate drinking from their parents and they do so from an early age. 8

Nevertheless, agencies and groups typically assert falsely that “21 is the minimum legal drinking age (MLDA) everywhere in the USA,” “All states and the District of Columbia now have minimum drinking-age laws set at 21 years of age,” “In the United States, the MLDA in all 50 states in currently 21 years,” and many other variations on that incorrect and misleading message.

By misinforming the public, this myth discourages a responsible parenting behavior that could reduce the abuse of alcohol among young people in the United States.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/YouthI ... 21178.html

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:04 pm
 


Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
MrMagicMan MrMagicMan:
Those who begin drinking at a younger age are more prone to alcoholism.


Really? So how come europe seems to get by just fine?


Europe doesn't get by just fine. They have been slipping for awhile.


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Define slipping.


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I'd rather not.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:58 pm
 


me and a couple of my buddies are thinking about going up to canada
and well ....
i have some questions about the drinking age in canada

1 In vancouver how hard would it be to get drinks at a bar if your 18?
2 If that isnt very easy ... what parts of Alberta (or other places where drinking age is 18) would you recomend ?
3 and would it be smart to not even mention the fact were americans? Im from california , and if youve never been there, for the most part we are totally unlike the rest of the country.
people are not as crazy, fat, ignorant, lazy, judgemental, etc... as the rest of the country. But im still afraid we will end up lumped together with all the other stupid americans.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:18 pm
 


Nice necro for a first post :lol:

Other than that, I can't help you. I am not underage, and I don't drink 8)


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