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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:00 am
 


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Why aren't white people allowed to celebrate their culture and want to keep it together?

I don’t get it? Here in western Canada we are up to the wazoo in Ukrainian Festivals, German Festivals, Icelandic Festivals, Francophone Festivals. I do believe the people who put them on or attend them are “celebrating “ one form or another of “White Culture?”


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We celebrate it all the time.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:02 am
 


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She was terminated by the Rebel Media for being too Right. 8O


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:05 am
 


Coach85 Coach85:
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The problem is when active Nazis and KKKLan types are the ones to speak the loudest about white/European/Amerian culture they end up damaging the cause just by opening their damn mouths.


They're the ONLY ones that talk about it. Everyone else is too afraid.

You can't talk about being proud to be white, about preservation Western culture or anything in that area without being called a racist.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:09 am
 


Coach85 Coach85:

Bad people all over the World have used various phrases while committing crimes. It doesn't mean that when that phrase is used again, by anyone, it has the same connotation.

She has a point. If you replace the word 'white' with any other group of people, the slogan immediately becomes acceptable. That's wrong and huge double standard.

Why aren't white people allowed to celebrate their culture and want to keep it together?

That might be a valid critique if she didn't say it in support of a self-labelled white nationalist podcast and it's viewers. But she did.

Also, we celebrate western culture all the time. We have entire events, venues, months, parades, and holidays to celebrate historical or modern western culture, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from.


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Kind of.

Depends on what we're calling 'society' these days, I guess.

20-30 years ago there would be nothing Faith believes in that isn't mainstream.

That still might be the case but it's more a case of the loudest voices these days.

And they scream "Faith Gold is a Nazi!!!" drooling spittle as they howl.

I quietly insist, no she's not.


I'm not drooling spittle or howling.. I'm saying Faith Goldy is a white supremacist. What's the problem with "celebrating white culture"? Nothing, except that when the last couple of groups did it--the KKK and the Nazis--and it ended up as a pretty crappy time for everybody. Because it's not about celebrating anything--it's about going after the Muslims, or the Jews, or the gays, or the journalists, or the immigrants, or the intellectuals. How do I know? Because we've seen this show before.


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fifeboy fifeboy:
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Why aren't white people allowed to celebrate their culture and want to keep it together?

I don’t get it? Here in western Canada we are up to the wazoo in Ukrainian Festivals, German Festivals, Icelandic Festivals, Francophone Festivals. I do believe the people who put them on or attend them are “celebrating “ one form or another of “White Culture?”


Are all French white? Are all people from Germany white? The majority are, but not all.

Point being, you can't have a festival to celebrate 'white' culture. You can't use that term under any circumstance.

We can have 'black' events, where we celebrate black history, etc but white people cannot celebrate anything. We cannot be openly proud to be white. We cannot openly tell our children to date only white people. Whites have done too much bad in history to be able to celebrate themselves and are made to feel bad about that almost daily in today's world.


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Coach85 Coach85:
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Why aren't white people allowed to celebrate their culture and want to keep it together?

I don’t get it? Here in western Canada we are up to the wazoo in Ukrainian Festivals, German Festivals, Icelandic Festivals, Francophone Festivals. I do believe the people who put them on or attend them are “celebrating “ one form or another of “White Culture?”


Are all French white? Are all people from Germany white? The majority are, but not all.

Point being, you can't have a festival to celebrate 'white' culture. You can't use that term under any circumstance.

We can have 'black' events, where we celebrate black history, etc but white people cannot celebrate anything. We cannot be openly proud to be white.


And yet, we do. Just as Fifeboy writes, Ukraine, Germany, Poland etc. are 'white' celebrations in that they are majority white populations, but are celebrating a shared and similar cultures. We aren't celebrating our 'whiteness' specifically, because . . . why? That's just a byproduct of where our ancestors settled, the need for vitamin D in winter is all 'whiteness' is. If they didn't move to a colder climate and cross breed with Neanderthals and Denisovians, we'd still be 'black'.

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We cannot openly tell our children to date only white people. Whites have done too much bad in history to be able to celebrate themselves and are made to feel bad about that almost daily in today's world.


Well, no, why would we celebrate our bigotry and repression of others? What is there to celebrate in that?

But Octoberfest!!! [B-o] Fall harvest! [drool]


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:53 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Kind of.

Depends on what we're calling 'society' these days, I guess.

20-30 years ago there would be nothing Faith believes in that isn't mainstream.

That still might be the case but it's more a case of the loudest voices these days.

And they scream "Faith Gold is a Nazi!!!" drooling spittle as they howl.

I quietly insist, no she's not.


I'm not drooling spittle or howling.. I'm saying Faith Goldy is a white supremacist.


Fine. Without the hyperbole then. You're wrong.

The rest of your post had nothing to do with that fact. She's not a white supremacist and you're wrong. It's that simple.

It's not hard to call somebody a Nazi though. Any Bozo can do it.


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Kind of.

Depends on what we're calling 'society' these days, I guess.

20-30 years ago there would be nothing Faith believes in that isn't mainstream.

That still might be the case but it's more a case of the loudest voices these days.

And they scream "Faith Gold is a Nazi!!!" drooling spittle as they howl.

I quietly insist, no she's not.


I'm not drooling spittle or howling.. I'm saying Faith Goldy is a white supremacist.


Fine. Without the hyperbole then. You're wrong.

The rest of your post had nothing to do with that fact. She's not a white supremacist and you're wrong. It's that simple.

It's not hard to call somebody a Nazi though. Any Bozo can do it.


When you quote white supremacist slogans and go on white supremacist podcasts, it's reasonable that someone might assume you are a white supremacist.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:08 am
 


When you deal with hate groups you are dealing with the scum of the earth but, the problem is people keep decrying white hate groups while forgetting to mention that there are other races that espouse the same things.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 363978002/

And for the record I'm not buying the Donald Trump aspect of the Southern Poverty Law Centers reasoning for the rise of black hate groups because if he was the cause we'd never here from assholes like Louis Farrakahn.

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Farrakhan has described Catholics and Jews, who he said practice a "gutter religion," as preying on blacks. During his Saviours’ Day Address in Chicago on Feb. 25, 2018, he declared that “powerful Jews are my enemy” and claimed that “the Jews were responsible for all of this filth and degenerate behavior that Hollywood is putting out turning men into women and women into men.” In addition, he said, “White folks are going down. And Satan is going down. And Farrakhan, by God’s grace, has pulled the cover off of that Satanic Jew and I’m here to say your time is up, your world is through.”

The racism of a group like the Nation of Islam may be the predictable reaction to white supremacy. But if a white group espoused similar beliefs regarding African Americans and Jews and, few would have trouble describing it as racist and anti-Semitic. If we seek to expose white hate groups, we cannot be in the business of explaining away the black ones
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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... ationalist


To me that sounds like pure racist hate as bad as the KKK or white supremacists espouse but because they're black they get a pass and for the record this group was around long before DJT and will be around long after him but they've been portrayed as champions of their race rather than what they really are. A racist group of hate mongers who keep getting a pass from the liberal left in America.

So, until people start to discuss the truth about racism and hate in America nothing will change especially when one side gets to operate from the shadows with impunity while the other is constantly (and rightly) vilified the animosity and hate will continue to grow because it fosters an us vs them mentality.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:12 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Coach85 Coach85:
We cannot openly tell our children to date only white people. Whites have done too much bad in history to be able to celebrate themselves and are made to feel bad about that almost daily in today's world.


Well, no, why would we celebrate our bigotry and repression of others? What is there to celebrate in that?

But Octoberfest!!! [B-o] Fall harvest! [drool]


Ah, so white people haven't done anything positive? Funny how you went right the bad. White people have done a lot of good in the world as well.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:18 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
When you quote white supremacist slogans and go on white supremacist podcasts, it's reasonable that someone might assume you are a white supremacist.

Don't forget endorsing a book written by a fascist from the 1930s (For My Legionaries by Corneliu Codreanu), and commenting on a manifesto written by richard spencer saying it was "robust" and "well thought out ideas."

She did retract the endorsing of the book by Codreanu, saying she hadn't completed it. But when you've got a chapter called "The Jewish Problem" you should really know what you're getting into.


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When you deal with hate groups you are dealing with the scum of the earth but, the problem is people keep decrying white hate groups while forgetting to mention that there are other races that espouse the same things.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 363978002/

And for the record I'm not buying the Donald Trump aspect of the Southern Poverty Law Centers reasoning for the rise of black hate groups because if he was the cause we'd never here from assholes like Louis Farrakahn.

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Farrakhan has described Catholics and Jews, who he said practice a "gutter religion," as preying on blacks. During his Saviours’ Day Address in Chicago on Feb. 25, 2018, he declared that “powerful Jews are my enemy” and claimed that “the Jews were responsible for all of this filth and degenerate behavior that Hollywood is putting out turning men into women and women into men.” In addition, he said, “White folks are going down. And Satan is going down. And Farrakhan, by God’s grace, has pulled the cover off of that Satanic Jew and I’m here to say your time is up, your world is through.”

The racism of a group like the Nation of Islam may be the predictable reaction to white supremacy. But if a white group espoused similar beliefs regarding African Americans and Jews and, few would have trouble describing it as racist and anti-Semitic. If we seek to expose white hate groups, we cannot be in the business of explaining away the black ones
.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... ationalist


To me that sounds like pure racist hate as bad as the KKK or white supremacists espouse but because they're black they get a pass and for the record this group was around long before DJT and will be around long after him but they've been portrayed as champions of their race rather than what they really are. A racist group of hate mongers who keep getting a pass from the liberal left in America.

So, until people start to discuss the truth about racism and hate in America nothing will change especially when one side gets to operate from the shadows with impunity while the other is constantly (and rightly) vilified the animosity and hate will continue to grow because it fosters an us vs them mentality.

I don't understand, the SPLC agrees with you. And we aren't talking about a member of a black hate group running for mayor, if and when that happens, I personally would have the same condemnation. When we talk about hate groups do we now need to preface everything with "There are other races that have hate groups too"?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:27 am
 


Coach85 Coach85:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Coach85 Coach85:
We cannot openly tell our children to date only white people. Whites have done too much bad in history to be able to celebrate themselves and are made to feel bad about that almost daily in today's world.


Well, no, why would we celebrate our bigotry and repression of others? What is there to celebrate in that?

But Octoberfest!!! [B-o] Fall harvest! [drool]


Ah, so white people haven't done anything positive? Funny how you went right the bad. White people have done a lot of good in the world as well.


You specifically write "Whites have done too much bad in history to be able to celebrate themselves" - how else should I have taken that??

We celebrate the good in our celebration of our culture. We don't celebrate the fact that we are 'white' specifically.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:41 am
 


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Don't forget endorsing a book written by a fascist from the 1930s (For My Legionaries by Corneliu Codreanu), and commenting on a manifesto written by richard spencer saying it was "robust" and "well thought out ideas."

She did retract the endorsing of the book by Codreanu, saying she hadn't completed it. But when you've got a chapter called "The Jewish Problem" you should really know what you're getting into.


I'd never heard of this book before. Interesting the reviews on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/MY-LEGIONARIES-C ... 1682044009

No offense here, but the book and its author seem a product of their times. Dictatorships, authoritarianism, and anti-Semitism reached their apogee in the 1930's and this book is reflective of that period.

The struggle against a rising communism struck a particular chord in the Europeans. They were economically wasted after WW1, they'd lost almost a whole generation of young men in the trenches, and then they were beset by the Depression.

Common people saw their life's savings wiped out as banks around the world collapsed and the Jewish bankers themselves were typically not as affected because they'd taken wise measures to hedge their fortunes.

What's lost in this part of history is that up through the 1950's and 1960's many Christian Westerners viewed banking as a sinful and scornful profession because the Bible instructs to never lend or borrow money.

Jews have for over a thousand years been traditional bankers in Christian society because the Christians wanted it that way.

Yet every time there was a downturn the Jews would get blamed for being successful bankers when at time there were literally no other bankers.

In some respects the same sentiments persist and the Jewish bankers get hated all the same and even threatened with death for their success.

But now as a society we're so much more sophisticated.

We'd never dream of rounding up the Jewish bankers and stock traders and putting them in camps or slaughtering them and dumping them in mass graves.

Nope.

But if we first call them capitalists then it's okay to round them up, imprison them, gas them, hate them, and etc. all because they made a fortune on an idiot public that DEMANDS access to easy credit at high interest rates.

You want to have fun with anti-Semites? Tell them who makes all the money from their credit cards. :lol:


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