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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:45 am
 


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We don't celebrate the fact that we are 'white' specifically.


I know I don't.

Being 'white' means I can't go outside in the sun without being covered head to toe lest I get sunburned. Even in Alaska.

A sunburn means getting another fucking keratosis or skin cancer removed.

And when I'm in Hawaii I get to enjoy watching the happy brown kids cavorting in the water while my pale ass has to stay in the shade and do my snorkeling only in the mornings or evenings.

But I love my culture. [B-o]


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Ah, so white people haven't done anything positive? Funny how you went right the bad. White people have done a lot of good in the world as well.


Why would you be proud of what good other white people have done? How does the good done by other white people reflect on you?


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Ah, so white people haven't done anything positive? Funny how you went right the bad. White people have done a lot of good in the world as well.


Why would you be proud of what good other white people have done? How does the good done by other white people reflect on you?


Conversely:

Why should you be ashamed of the bad other white people have done? How does the evil done by other white people reflect on you?

Both my grand-dads served in the fight against Hitler. And I've never done anything like burning a cross on a black family's front lawn or telling a Native that they can't go to college because it's "whites only" or ever told any Asian to "get the hell out of my country". Therefore I'll be damned if I'll be apologizing to any non-white for ANYTHING that my ancestors might have done and certainly not for anything that I HAVEN'T done. FUck the SJW mentality if they think they'll ever get that out of me. :evil:


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When you deal with hate groups you are dealing with the scum of the earth but, the problem is people keep decrying white hate groups while forgetting to mention that there are other races that espouse the same things.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 363978002/

And for the record I'm not buying the Donald Trump aspect of the Southern Poverty Law Centers reasoning for the rise of black hate groups because if he was the cause we'd never here from assholes like Louis Farrakahn.

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Farrakhan has described Catholics and Jews, who he said practice a "gutter religion," as preying on blacks. During his Saviours’ Day Address in Chicago on Feb. 25, 2018, he declared that “powerful Jews are my enemy” and claimed that “the Jews were responsible for all of this filth and degenerate behavior that Hollywood is putting out turning men into women and women into men.” In addition, he said, “White folks are going down. And Satan is going down. And Farrakhan, by God’s grace, has pulled the cover off of that Satanic Jew and I’m here to say your time is up, your world is through.”

The racism of a group like the Nation of Islam may be the predictable reaction to white supremacy. But if a white group espoused similar beliefs regarding African Americans and Jews and, few would have trouble describing it as racist and anti-Semitic. If we seek to expose white hate groups, we cannot be in the business of explaining away the black ones
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https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... ationalist


To me that sounds like pure racist hate as bad as the KKK or white supremacists espouse but because they're black they get a pass and for the record this group was around long before DJT and will be around long after him but they've been portrayed as champions of their race rather than what they really are. A racist group of hate mongers who keep getting a pass from the liberal left in America.

So, until people start to discuss the truth about racism and hate in America nothing will change especially when one side gets to operate from the shadows with impunity while the other is constantly (and rightly) vilified the animosity and hate will continue to grow because it fosters an us vs them mentality.

I don't understand, the SPLC agrees with you. And we aren't talking about a member of a black hate group running for mayor, if and when that happens, I personally would have the same condemnation. When we talk about hate groups do we now need to preface everything with "There are other races that have hate groups too"?


So hate speech is okay so long as you aren't running for office? And no you don't have to preface everything with "there are other races that have hate groups too" but by ignoring that fact and focusing on only the white groups and people you prove my point that those other hate groups are getting a pass because of their colour.

But answer me this. When was the last time the mainstream media posted anything about the Nation of Islam's antisemitism?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:03 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Conversely:

Why should you be ashamed of the bad other white people have done? How does the evil done by other white people reflect on you?

Both my grand-dads served in the fight against Hitler. And I've never done anything like burning a cross on a black family's front lawn or telling a Native that they can't go to college because it's "whites only" or ever told any Asian to "get the hell out of my country". Therefore I'll be damned if I'll be apologizing to any non-white for ANYTHING that my ancestors might have done and certainly not for anything that I HAVEN'T done. FUck the SJW mentality if they think they'll ever get that out of me. :evil:


Exactly. Be consistent. If you're not apologizing for crimes committed by whites, then don't puff your chest out at white accomplishments.

White pride and white self-flagellation are the same thing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:32 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
$1:
Ah, so white people haven't done anything positive? Funny how you went right the bad. White people have done a lot of good in the world as well.


Why would you be proud of what good other white people have done? How does the good done by other white people reflect on you?


Why do any groups celebrate the good others of their ilk have done? Pride.

The same reason that anything good happening in the World that involves a Canadian, it's all over the news.

Black people celebrate other blacks that have made accomplishments. Awards only for blacks. TV award shows for blacks, etc. A sense of pride comes from this.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:49 pm
 


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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
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Ah, so white people haven't done anything positive? Funny how you went right the bad. White people have done a lot of good in the world as well.


Why would you be proud of what good other white people have done? How does the good done by other white people reflect on you?


Why do any groups celebrate the good others of their ilk have done? Pride.

The same reason that anything good happening in the World that involves a Canadian, it's all over the news.

Black people celebrate other blacks that have made accomplishments. Awards only for blacks. TV award shows for blacks, etc. A sense of pride comes from this.


Which would be fine if, conversely you opted to accept some responsibility for the sins of other white people. Take, say, residential schools for example. But no, when it comes to that you be all "Well, I didn't have anything to do with that." And that's the problem.


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Which would be fine if, conversely you opted to accept some responsibility for the sins of other white people. Take, say, residential schools for example. But no, when it comes to that you be all "Well, I didn't have anything to do with that." And that's the problem.


The government made recompense on our collective behalf. No one said anything about every white person in the country being obligated to issue an apology themselves every time they encounter a Native. Not gonna happen.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:13 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
The government made recompense on our collective behalf. No one said anything about every white person in the country being obligated to issue an apology themselves every time they encounter a Native. Not gonna happen.


If you aren't going to take collectively responsibility for white sin then don't take collective pride in white accomplishments. Doesn't make any sense, unless of course the real point is white domination, which, recent history shows, is where these white pride groups end up.

Fucking white pride losers. All that time growing up I thought the Jews whined too much with their Holocaust memorials and the Never Again crap. I'm like "Ancient history, move on." Now the last of those survivors are barely in their grave and already it's starting again. They were right.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:20 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Which would be fine if, conversely you opted to accept some responsibility for the sins of other white people. Take, say, residential schools for example. But no, when it comes to that you be all "Well, I didn't have anything to do with that." And that's the problem.


I'm not Catholic, why the hell would I apologise for the sins of the Church of Rome? That's their sin. Moreover, I was 16 when the last one was closed. Apparently my sin was choosing to be born white. Because clearly I had a say in that. Its time to move on, how the indigenous peoples were treated in the past was awful, but its up to them on how they are treated in the future.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:23 pm
 


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
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I'm not drooling spittle or howling.. I'm saying Faith Goldy is a white supremacist.


Fine. Without the hyperbole then. You're wrong.

The rest of your post had nothing to do with that fact. She's not a white supremacist and you're wrong. It's that simple.

It's not hard to call somebody a Nazi though. Any Bozo can do it.


When you quote white supremacist slogans and go on white supremacist podcasts, it's reasonable that someone might assume you are a white supremacist.


That can only sound like you know what you're talking about until one sees what you're actually referring to. It's this, right?



There's nothing "white supremacist" there.

Remember that time you thought you were being funny mocking Michelle Malkin, comparing her to Filipino strippers who do tricks with ping pong balls. Maybe not, but I remember it.

You're a racist, white supremacist.

See how easy that is. I even have better reason to smear the slur than you do your lie about Faith.

But yes, we're both wrong on our name-calling. You more than me though, because I'm not afraid to admit it.


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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Thanos Thanos:
The government made recompense on our collective behalf. No one said anything about every white person in the country being obligated to issue an apology themselves every time they encounter a Native. Not gonna happen.


If you aren't going to take collectively responsibility for white sin then don't take collective pride in white accomplishments. Doesn't make any sense, unless of course the real point is white domination, which, recent history shows, is where these white pride groups end up.

Fucking white pride losers. All that time growing up I thought the Jews whined too much with their Holocaust memorials and the Never Again crap. I'm like "Ancient history, move on." Now the last of those survivors are barely in their grave and already it's starting again. They were right.


Did you miss the part where I said clearly that the government made recompense on our behalf? Can you stop already with these crazy myths that nothing has been done to address the damage caused by the residential school, both in terms of fiscal reparations and in the imposition onto the justice system of special rights for Natives that no one else in the country is entitled to?

Not sure why you'd ever think that about the Jews. That's a really blunder on your part IMO, especially when you're basically saying at the same time that any Native from now to any born in the future are entitled to a lifetime of apologies (from every white Canadian, including those also not yet born, if I'm reading you correctly) for the residential schools, even though the people who were involved in that policy are fewer in number today than those remaining Nazis who were involved in the Holocaust.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:32 pm
 


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I'm not Catholic, why the hell would I apologise for the sins of the Church of Rome? That's their sin.


Exactly. And by the same token, why would you engage in "white pride."


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Because clearly I had a say in that. Its time to move on, how the indigenous peoples were treated in the past was awful, but its up to them on how they are treated in the future.


Well the courts are still ruling. The Sixties Scoop is in the courts now I think. Then there's all the nations with no treaty out west here that will have to be negotiated. Then there will be lawsuits and negotiations over treaties that were signed and then reneged upon or changed unilaterally by Canada. But all in all, it's been an upward trend for First Nations folks I think.


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Zipperfish Zipperfish:
llama66 llama66:
I'm not Catholic, why the hell would I apologise for the sins of the Church of Rome? That's their sin.


Exactly. And by the same token, why would you engage in "white pride."


I don't follow, are you alluding that because I am white I must have white pride?


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:37 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:


Not sure why you'd ever think that about the Jews. That's a really blunder on your part IMO, especially when you're basically saying at the same time that any Native from now to any born in the future are entitled to a lifetime of apologies (from every white Canadian, including those also not yet born, if I'm reading you correctly) for the residential schools, even though the people who were involved in that policy are fewer in number today than those remaining Nazis who were involved in the Holocaust.


Well I used to think that way about the Natives too, to be honest.


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