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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:45 pm
I had forgotten about Jean Charest. If Ignatieff or Harper flounders in the fall election Charest could run for leadership of either party. He has been a succesful Premier and is from Quebec. Personnaly I don't like him, think he is mediocre, but he certainly has standing in the country. http://www.westislandchronicle.com/arti ... ttawa.html
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:49 pm
Not exactly an unbiased piece but then it's an editorial. How did he do at the Liberal leadership convention?
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:06 pm
The guy used to be Conservative at the Federal level. Been the Quebec Premier since '03 as a Liberal. There were times where he could be considered a closet socialist. Although, he could probably go for any other political party for he's no longer sure if he should be to the left or right. He's been Quebec Premier this long due to a lack of opposition. People are tired of the 'ol PQ and the ADQ has had no love from the media. The PLQ, being a Federalist provincial party, will always have a certain appeal amongst Quebec voters.
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:40 pm
PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123: The guy used to be Conservative at the Federal level. Been the Quebec Premier since '03 as a Liberal. There were times where he could be considered a closet socialist. Although, he could probably go for any other political party for he's no longer sure if he should be to the left or right. He's been Quebec Premier this long due to a lack of opposition. People are tired of the 'ol PQ and the ADQ has had no love from the media. The PLQ, being a Federalist provincial party, will always have a certain appeal amongst Quebec voters. I think he was the federal PC leader and switched to Quebec Liberal leader. Provincial premiers rarely do well when they go federal. And a guy from Quebec? How would it sell out west?
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:45 pm
leewgrant leewgrant: How would it sell out west? I think the article answers that question the best: $1: If Harper is beaten, or blows another majority government, Charest can step up as the real Conservative, unite the party and put the Reformers out of their whining misery, ending their fantasies about running the country out of Canmore. With a party attitude like that, maybe that's why there are so few Liberal MPs West of Toronto.
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:04 pm
Well you always have William Shatner.
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Posts: 929
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:03 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: leewgrant leewgrant: How would it sell out west? I think the article answers that question the best: $1: If Harper is beaten, or blows another majority government, Charest can step up as the real Conservative, unite the party and put the Reformers out of their whining misery, ending their fantasies about running the country out of Canmore. With a party attitude like that, maybe that's why there are so few Liberal MPs West of Toronto. I fail to see what Jean Charest has to do with a lack of federal Liberal MP's out west. The Quebec Liberal Party has, and I feel like I'm repeating this until I'm blue in the face, NOTHING to do with the federal Liberal party. They have never been affiliated. In Quebec, the QLP is the centrist voice of reason between the delusional ADQ and PQ. Jean Charest was the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada, and everyone knows he's a closet supporter of its bastard child, the CPC. If Charest were leader of the CPC, I might actually consider voting for them. But as long as the American-style Canadian Alliance conservatives are still running the show in this new party, I'm not setting foot. Bring common sense British conservatism back to Canada, and I'll vote for that.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 pm
If we want to speculate on who'd make a good Prime Minister, I'd like to suggest former Newfoundland premier Brian Tobin. He was a Liberal premier and federal MP, but he's really more of a conservative in philosophy and approach. He kicked ass over the Grand Banks sovereignty issue and might have a lot to offer in our arctic sovereignty issues. He's also got a lot of natural resource experience, corporate experience and did a good job of trying to diversify and modernize the Newfoundland economy when it was severely depressed in the 1980s. He knows how to deal with economic downturns. He was also an outspoken critic of patronage and ripped Paul Martin over his corrupt cronies. I'd vote for a party led by Tobin, whether that were the Conservatives or the Liberals. Food for thought. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:14 pm
Charest could possibly deliver much Quebec support. The West is going to be the big problem, but I think it would support Charest at least long enough to get him to the PM position.
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:26 pm
Son of a bitch Lemmy, I never even thought of Tobin until you mentioned him. And I gotta say, I agree with your assessment.
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:09 pm
leewgrant leewgrant: PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123: The guy used to be Conservative at the Federal level. Been the Quebec Premier since '03 as a Liberal. There were times where he could be considered a closet socialist. Although, he could probably go for any other political party for he's no longer sure if he should be to the left or right. He's been Quebec Premier this long due to a lack of opposition. People are tired of the 'ol PQ and the ADQ has had no love from the media. The PLQ, being a Federalist provincial party, will always have a certain appeal amongst Quebec voters. I think he was the federal PC leader and switched to Quebec Liberal leader. Provincial premiers rarely do well when they go federal. And a guy from Quebec? How would it sell out west? Charest has all the charisma of a wet sock! And the reason their are/have been so few Libs 'out West' is because we are viewed/used by them as the 'demented rich uncle' whom can so easily be taken advantage of and really not able to do anything about it. (remember p.e.t.). We are 'used' to 'mine the resources' and all we end up with is 'the shaft'!
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Posts: 11362
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:49 am
Yogi Yogi: leewgrant leewgrant: PimpBrewski123 PimpBrewski123: The guy used to be Conservative at the Federal level. Been the Quebec Premier since '03 as a Liberal. There were times where he could be considered a closet socialist. Although, he could probably go for any other political party for he's no longer sure if he should be to the left or right. He's been Quebec Premier this long due to a lack of opposition. People are tired of the 'ol PQ and the ADQ has had no love from the media. The PLQ, being a Federalist provincial party, will always have a certain appeal amongst Quebec voters. I think he was the federal PC leader and switched to Quebec Liberal leader. Provincial premiers rarely do well when they go federal. And a guy from Quebec? How would it sell out west? Charest has all the charisma of a wet sock! And the reason their are/have been so few Libs 'out West' is because we are viewed/used by them as the 'demented rich uncle' whom can so easily be taken advantage of and really not able to do anything about it. (remember p.e.t.). We are 'used' to 'mine the resources' and all we end up with is 'the shaft'! hehe, wow dude, Chillax. That's not the reason, but continue wallowing in it.
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Posts: 1092
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:28 am
Either of the main parties do much for me as they are too concerned about them selves , the people rarely seem to cross their minds cept when they want my vote.
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posts: 2944
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:22 am
You know, another candidate for the Conservative Party is Peter MacKay. He was the leader of the last standing Progressive Conservatives and is centre of the road. The reason I personnally think he has potential is because I sent him some bad economic statistics on Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver and he writes me that he forward the data to the Immigration Minister, indicating he "got" the problem. Most of Parliament is not very economically astute, is not good at politics is economics in Canada. It's real clear this is the case with Harper. So, Peter MacKay has potential, potential to be a Liberal slayer.
Harper should just quit. He's fought three elections and is doing middling. I've heard he's not that stuck on being The Big Cheese and the Party needs a new leader to move ahead and reunit Canada.
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Posts: 11362
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:58 pm
I like McKay and I think most Canadians probably like him as well. I'm not sure he's PM material though. He's just too nice a guy.
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