[Scape]

So say the PQ

And Harper wants to side with these guys.

[QuebecSpock]

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So say the PQ

And Harper wants to side with these guys.

( from www.cyberpresse.ca )
Irregularites soulevees par Richard Le Hir : Le directeur general des elections dement les allegations
Norman Delisle
PC
QUEBEC

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Une enquete serree menee par le Directeur des elections du Quebec apres le referendum de 1995 dement les pretendues irregularites soulevees par Richard Le Hir.

Ce dernier pretendait jeudi que le camp du Oui s'etait concerte lors du referendum de 1995 pour mettre en place des strategies douteuses en faveur de son option, notamment des mesures pour ralentir le deroulement du vote dans les comtes anglophones federalistes de l'ouest de Montreal.

" Ni l'enquete effectuee par le Directeur des elections aupres de 210 personnes ayant exerce des fonctions a divers niveaux lors du referendum, ni l'analyse des bulletins de vote examines par l'honorable juge Alan B. Gold dans 34 circonscriptions ne permettent d'etablir qu'il y aurait eu complot au niveau provincial par le Comite du Oui dans le but de favoriser son option ", conclut l'enquete du Directeur des elections tenue quelques semaines apres le referendum.

[RoyalHighlander]

quick translation....

A squeezed investigation conducted by the Director of the elections of the Quebec after the referendum of 1995 denial the claimed irregularities raised by Richard The Hir.

The latter claimed Thursday that the camp of the Yes was itself collective at the time of the referendum of 1995 to put some places doubtful strategies in favor of his option, notably measures to slow down the sequence of the vote in the federalist english-speaking counties of the west of Montréal.

« Or the investigation carried out by the Director of the elections with 210 persons having exercised functions to various levels at the time of the referendum, or the analysis of the vote bulletins examined by the honorable judge Alan B. Gold in 34 districts do not allow establishing that there would have been plot at the provincial level by the Committee of the Yes with the intention of to favor his option », concludes the investigation of the Director of the held elections some weeks after the referendum.

The committee of the No, that grouped together the federalist ones, had carried complaint against the agissements of the sovereignists after the referendum. One reproached notably to the searching ones of the counties of the west of Montréal, named by the camp of the Yes, of unfairly to have rejected thousands of vote marked Non bulletins.


OR....

A tight survey carried out by the Director of the elections of Quebec after the referendum of 1995 demented person alleged irregularities raised by Richard Hir. This last claimed Thursday that the camp of Yes had acted in concert at the time of the referendum of 1995 to set up doubtful strategies in favour of its option, in particular of measurements to slow down the course of the vote in the federalistic anglophone counties of the west of Montreal. "Neither the investigation carried out by the Director of the elections near 210 people having exerted functions on various levels at the time of the referendum, nor the analysis of the ballot papers examined by honourable judge Alan B Gold in 34 districts make it possible to establish that there would have been plot at the provincial level by the Committee of Yes with an aim of supporting his option", the investigation concludes from the Director of the elections held a few weeks after the referendum. The committee of Not, which gathered the federalists, had carried felt sorry for against the intrigues of the souverainists after the referendum. One reproached in particular to the tellers counties West of Montreal, named by the camp of Yes, wrongfully to have rejected thousands of marked ballot papers Non.

[Bouboumaster]

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And Harper wants to side with these guys.

And someones don't know why we want to get the "F" out of the Canada.

[Scape]

You don't have to vote Liberal to stay in Canada there is Action démocratique, Green or NDP just to name a few. I mean if you work at a job and they don't give you the shifts you request you don't quit do you?

[Scape]

The Bloc are going to sweep Quebec as all a BLOC or PQ candidate has to do is show up at this point.

There is plenty of problems on the federalist side ranging from corruption, inexperience, lack of coverage, infighting and traditional voting patterns. Be that as it may no other Provence has a federalist party. Part of the problems that are so loudly flaunted by the Bloc and PC and being exacerbated by the Bloc/PQ themselves by promoting regionalization.

Separation will have profoundly long term negative consequences for our dollar, trade and our culture. Everyone knows this. That is why Quebec has never separated but it still is a valid option to present Quebec interests at the federalist table (the 'Brothers in arms' bit). There comes a time where that option may snap the camels back and it came close yesterday. The people of Quebec have had hard time under federalism but they have also reaped rich rewards as well.

Some extremist separatists say that Quebec can go it alone and all will be fine as trade will carry on, but that will never be the case in such an emotional break up. The federalist cause is flagging and there has been support on the Quebec side but it is in dire straits and needs a hand. Quebec needs to get behind something other than the BLOC for a while until the Federalists (and this included the Conservatives) can provide better opportunities for all of Canada.

[-Mario-]

Call me naive... Why are they getting their nose out of joint and trying to leave this beautiful country. The Liberals put a lot of money in Quebec (again) to try to keep them within Canada. PC did the same, with Mulroney and Lucien Bouchard has his second in command.
Should they be flatered for us to try to keep them.

To answer to the original post, PQ has always played dirty. They are the one that called our great flag a red rag... Of course they did appoligize, but only partially, this way they get it both ways.

Those guys get my blood boiling.

[DerbyX]

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Promoting regionalism huh? Sort of like the way Liberal MP's hawk Anti-Alberta crap day in and day out?

Sort of like how bush hawked day in and day out about the WMD that saddam had eh?

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The people of Quebec have had hard time under federalism but they have also reaped rich rewards as well.


I'm sorry but the Envelopes filled with cash only made it to a few Liberal party members.

And the cheney-haliburton connection is all pure and innocent.

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And Who's fault is that?

Yours, obviously!

Hey cock46. Anyone who votes bush does not have the neccessary intelligence to form sound political judgement. Tell me again (although I'm sure others have raised it) why a bigotted american who seeks only to post anything inflamatory is on this board. Would you support us visiting an america kicks ass forum and deliberately posting trash their, like how dick cheney visited saddam often before gulf 1 to facillitate illegal arms sales (as supported by the british diplomat whom your senate accused of illegal oil profiting).

[MAPLELEAVES]

People talk of the possibility of greater regionalism under a conservative government, when in fact Martin with his assymetrical approach to dealing with the provinces has exacerbated that the regionalism in Canada.
Whether this is good or bad, it is something to debate about.
It is worth noting that during Martin's tenure as PM it has become more apparent to me that our provincial governments make more a difference in our lives than the federal government. We want better taxation and healthcare? We look to the provinces because they are willing to fight for us. The Federal government has been turned into a simple ATM machine to give us cash when we need. And if that's the role that our central government is increasingly taking then in a couple years we might as well all separate.

[Bouboumaster]

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Mario Dumont is the smartest, most charismatic, indealist in politcis today..I have no idea why you guys won't vote for him.

No. Dumont is piece of shit.

Dumont will never gonna run the Quebec; The Quebeckers are in majority a population who are in the "left", and inthe "Middle". Dumont is toooo far in the "Right". Like Harper.

In the next election, I'm gonna vote for the NPD, and I invite everybody to vote the same.

For us (french canadian), it's the second best parti, after the bloc.

We don't want to vote for the jerks of liberal, and we really don't want the mofo of Harper too.