[Scape]

Add up the bumbling by Trudeau, Mulroney and Chretien.

[hwacker]

again this fits

[ridenrain]

Because too few Canadians demand better from their politicians. Too many don't vote, don't care, and too many fear change more than the thieves we have now.

[ManifestDestiny]

You can not have one party in power for to long and that is whats happening to Canada. It breeds coruption.

[hwacker]

http://www.rightpoint.org/media/Movie.wmv

[ridenrain]

[WLDB]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Because too few Canadians demand better from their politicians. Too many don't vote, don't care, and too many fear change more than the thieves we have now.

Agreed. Wasnt it about 60% of people eligible to vote actually voted last year.

And I doubt it will improve much with the new generation. Its too bad we dont have a more activist population.

[Bigboy]

WLDB WLDB:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Because too few Canadians demand better from their politicians. Too many don't vote, don't care, and too many fear change more than the thieves we have now.

Agreed. Wasnt it about 60% of people eligible to vote actually voted last year.

And I doubt it will improve much with the new generation. Its too bad we dont have a more activist population.

If reform starts to happen it will, with the internet people are learning more and i think thats a big problem

[Pimpbrewski]

Pretty interesting article. First, let's recognize that it is Rafe Mair's opinion. Also, his ``point of view`` is based after the fact (not criticizing, only stating that it's easier to voice their opinion after the fact). Would he have reacted differently if he had been a negotiator (at the table) in those particular times?

I am not criticizing the article itself for it has some good points. Also, remember that there were both side of the political parties involved, Trudeau at one point, then again, Mulroney tried his approach.

$1:

(Some would say that if Charlottetown had passed, the separatist movement would have been dead for all time. This is nonsense. The new deal for Quebec proposed by Charlottetown ....)

Does anyone know how to fix this issue? I would like to hear it.

For as you know from my previous posts, I can certainly attest to the fact that I would like to get this matter solved once and for all. Plus, consider the amount of money being spent on every referendum. I would like to see an end to that.

[DerbyX]

I don't think there is a "magic bullet" to fix the issues. Ottawa has to stop alienating the west to keep coddling seperatists who simply take all they can get and still wait for their chance to seperate. Alot of people seem to think a new senate (directly elected by each region/province) is a good start. I'll agree with that, let each senator be elected in a riding so the whole country is represented in the new senate, that or abolish it and save money. Recognizing the 3 founding "peoples", english, french & natives as the cornerstone of our country and not setting any one above the other. I don't believe in giving total power to any province will do anything but set each against one another when interests clash but clear lines need to be established. If nothing else it should help eliminate the double administration that is costly & endemic in Canada. It would help if soooo many in this country would stop being so preoccupied with blaming others (the feds, the liberals, the .....) and work for a solution.

[Scape]

PT: II How to Deal with Our Next Unity Crisis

$1:

I believe that the continuation of Canada is a long shot and we've wasted a lot of time. With vetoes over constitutional change in the hands of five regions and the federal government, we've had a constipated constitution. Instead of talking about governance and what changes we might make at our leisure we've placed the country no one meets and discusses because what's the use if all reforms are and will certainly be vetoed. My suggestions will be ignored because no one wants to face the inevitable. We will, not all that long from now, wish we had.

A constipated constitution and the ex-lax is gay marriage and legalized pot?

[dennis_is_canadian]

OneNationUnderGod, you say we breed corruption? Pherhaps we do vote too foten for a liberal government. But don't criticize us too much. Americans voted Bush in for a second term, in my oppinion, that was a stupid mistake. I know my oppinion means nothing to many but before you analyze our government, take a look at yours. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Scape]

1.4 Billion in overcharges and serving rotten food to troops

[Zipperfish]

If Canad is in deep trouble, it's a dire circumstance we hve grown accustomed to. Perhaps too accustomed too. Quebec separation ever since I can remember. Granted the presetn situation (with no federal oparty having much influence in Quebec) is rather unique, but every time separation comes around on the merry-go-round, it's a little different.

I don't subscribe to any wistful notions about the importance of keeping Quebec for our national character and identitiy. I think the issue should be examined from the point of view of mutual benefit. If one side dos not benefit from confederation as currently conceived, then in the long-term a dissolution wold be to the advantage of both parties.

Quebec is of enormous practical benefit to Canada. Without Quebec we would no longer be a contiguous country, which would make national goverbnment, borders and the such difficult. The separation itself would have very bad, albeit short term, economic implications. Ontario's influence would then be so massive that the West would almost certainly separate. There is strength in unity and numbers, so the resulting states would be more unstable than Canada.

Canada has a fiduciary responsibility to First Nations that Quebec may not recognize, and this, in my opinion, could easily lead to military conflict -- between First Nations and Quebec or between Quebec and Canada.

My only wish for this upcoming referendum is that we stop all the bleeding-heart nonsense about Quebec and "togetherness" and focus on the bottom line and the difficult decisions that Canada and Quebec as separating entities would have to make.