[Gonzo]

I hope this trend is starting to die. Wearing red on Friday. They try to tell you to support your troops by wearing red on Friday, even if you don’t support the war. This is propaganda. “Support your troops” means nothing. It tries to divert your attention to the real question, do you support the war. So if you don’t support the war, don’t wear red on Friday. If you want to support your troops, protest the war and get them back home. Also, it’s not a bad thing to not support every military endeavor of our country.

[longlostirishman]

NSN 09876 766547 894658 rock, crawl under, coward for the purpose of

[Tricks]

Gonzo Gonzo:

I hope this trend is starting to die. Wearing red on Friday. They try to tell you to support your troops by wearing red on Friday, even if you don’t support the war. This is propaganda. “Support your troops” means nothing. It tries to divert your attention to the real question, do you support the war. So if you don’t support the war, don’t wear red on Friday. If you want to support your troops, protest the war and get them back home. Also, it’s not a bad thing to not support every military endeavor of our country.

Um....Kiss my ass?

[SJ-24]

Listen, not only do i support the troops, but I'd like to pull them all out and just nuke Afghanistan and take care of the entire region in one flash of light. But since we don't have nuclear weapons in our ammo locker, we'll just have to kill off the bad guys one headshot at a time.

Now, I have to go wash my red shirt, shorts, and socks for next Fridays attire. Anyone not supporting the troops deserves a headshot of another kind. Only a loser would suggest not supporting the troops .

[Tricks]

SJ-24 SJ-24:

Now, I have to go wash my red shirt, shorts, and socks for next Fridays attire. Anyone not supporting the troops deserves a headshot of another kind. Only a loser would suggest not supporting the troops .

*offers up steel toed boots*

[weaponeer]

gonzo is intitled to his/her opinon, no matter how cracked. troops don't want ndp support anyway, it's hollow & fake.

the whole point of support the troops & most people don't get this part is to support the men and women. you don't have to like the war, the troops did not start it.

we do what the gov't tells us to do, you don't want to live in a country wear the army decides itself what to do, most left wing crack pots don't understand that.

gonzo, you don't support troops by humiliating them, their regiments, their history and an entire nation by retreating. My grandfathers did not retreat from 6 million nazis........

[Streaker]

Gonzo Gonzo:

I hope this trend is starting to die. Wearing red on Friday. They try to tell you to support your troops by wearing red on Friday, even if you don’t support the war. This is propaganda. “Support your troops” means nothing. It tries to divert your attention to the real question, do you support the war. So if you don’t support the war, don’t wear red on Friday. If you want to support your troops, protest the war and get them back home. Also, it’s not a bad thing to not support every military endeavor of our country.

Well, many troops won't take too well to the idea that support can be shown for them by protesting against the war.

Regardless, an excellent post.

[SJ-24]

Longlostirsishman...NATO STOCK NUMBERS (NSN) have 13 digits broken into four segments. First four number indicate category of item. Second two numbers indicate country of origin. Third set of three numbers indicated sub category, and the fourth set of four numbers indicates a basic part tracker. A number like 4730-01-135-2266 might be a Hydraulic component in the Canadian inventory. The number 135 might indicate an hydraulic o-ring, and the last four would be an item it's self within the sub-category...say on 2 inch diameter silicone o-ring for a hydraulic pump.

Now, I wasn't a supply tech, but over my 23 years I learned a few things about the numbering system. NSN should never be used as a primary key in your supply log as the number can be changed without warning. More so now that the computer systems get daily updates. A part number should be used to indicate an item for local supply use. For instance, the dildo that started this thread should be considered an ID-10-T.

[weaponeer]

frankly I don't want to be around liers anymore than anyone else, don't tell me you support us if you don't. if you don't support the war THAN PROTEST. i completly agree. we can do that in Canada, not everyone in the world can.

Support the troops is about the people, the human beings that wear the uniform. you can support them without supporting war, no prob. my mother doesn't think we should be there, I am going in Apr, mom is smart enough to see the diff.

[Always4Iggy]

Gonzo Gonzo:

I hope this trend is starting to die. Wearing red on Friday. They try to tell you to support your troops by wearing red on Friday, even if you don’t support the war. This is propaganda. “Support your troops” means nothing. It tries to divert your attention to the real question, do you support the war. So if you don’t support the war, don’t wear red on Friday. If you want to support your troops, protest the war and get them back home. Also, it’s not a bad thing to not support every military endeavor of our country.

Gonzo, you have raised an interesting question when you say:

$1:

If you want to support your troops, protest the war and get them back home.

In theory, that is fine. If our troops were back in their barracks, they would not be dying. So why do we want them out there in Afghanistan? And why does Iggy and his faction of liberals ( a majority of the Liberal caucus,) support the extension of the Afghan adventure?

The point, I think is that we must look at the bigger picture. Here is a scenario:

Canada has about 50,000 troops, and almost no equipment. Some stupid British junks, some Model T tanks, no nuclear weapons, no respectable aircraft carriers, or for that matter, aircraft. My friends from the reserves tell me that they are foreced to stage joint exercises with the USA forces, just to have things like helicopters and tanks available!

Given this, Gonzo, what do you think stops China or India from taking over Canada? Each of them has over a million soldiers, better arms and you name it. They have over a hundred thousand officers, and the personal servants provided to their officers exceed our entire army!

If either China or India lands on one coast, estimate are that they will reach the other coast within a week! And they have good reason.

a. They need the land to relieve their crowded poor countries. They need jobs and we need workers.

b. The land does not belong to us, it belongs to the American Indians. We stole it, so anyone can steal it from us.

So what protects us? According to me:

a. It is the USA who says 'leave Canada Alone'.

b. It is the USA led NATO which says 'An invasion of Canada is an attack on our friend.'

So Gonzo,

We must fight wars
which are not ours,
just so that others
will call us brothers.

[longlostirishman]

$1:

Longlostirsishman...NATO STOCK NUMBERS (NSN) have 13 digits broken into four segments. First four number indicate category of item. Second two numbers indicate country of origin. Third set of three numbers indicated sub category, and the fourth set of four numbers indicates a basic part tracker. A number like 4730-01-135-2266 might be a Hydraulic component in the Canadian inventory. The number 135 might indicate an hydraulic o-ring, and the last four would be an item it's self within the sub-category...say on 2 inch diameter silicone o-ring for a hydraulic pump.

Now, I wasn't a supply tech, but over my 23 years I learned a few things about the numbering system. NSN should never be used as a primary key in your supply log as the number can be changed without warning. More so now that the computer systems get daily updates. A part number should be used to indicate an item for local supply use. For instance, the dildo that started this thread should be considered an ID-10-T.

Good God man, you may not have been a stacker, but you certainly picked up the attitude. Damn, no wonder it used to take 2 freakin' years to get a pair of flying gloves.

[weaponeer]

i can tell you first hand the military is in a very sad state. here @ NORAD where i work, we monitor all Canadian airspace & control all military flying training or operational missions in Canada.

9 outta 10 military flight training missions IN CANADA are not even Canadian. Today for example I controlled 3 missions, 1 American, 1 British and 1 Royal Singapore Air Force. I still have 8 hours to go here on shift, two more missions coming up, both American.....

[Always4Iggy]

weaponeer weaponeer:

i can tell you first hand the military is in a very sad state. here @ NORAD where i work, we monitor all Canadian airspace & control all military flying training or operational missions in Canada.

9 outta 10 military flight training missions IN CANADA are not even Canadian. Today for example I controlled 3 missions, 1 American, 1 British and 1 Royal Singapore Air Force. I still have 8 hours to go here on shift, two more missions coming up, both American.....

Thanks, that proves my point. Imagine how much more of a sad state it would be, weaponeer, if you were monitoring Chinese or Indian armies sweeping across Canada!

[weaponeer]

here's any even sadder point. Not so long ago the Danes (who own Greenland) took a small island from us up north. Somewhere around Ellsmere Island I believe. They found a large natural gas reserve on it, we weren't using it, they claimed it.

In the future with global warming, more access to the north, more countries will be making claims to it. As we know the US does not see the NW Passage as ours, here's another interesting point, neither does China. If there is, and there could be, large mineral resources up there, we're fucked....

[weaponeer]

here's a link to the Danes story, little too close to home, and from a freind;

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/id-arcticviking.htm