[Newsbot]

Title: Canadians should be allowed to vote online: report
Category: Political
Posted By: Canadaka
Date: 2009-06-26 17:00:40
Canadian

[GreenTiger]

It is sad when you see something like this, we have the same problem in the States.

There is a potential problem as one fellow from Toronto pointed out. A foreign power mich cyber attack and change the voting results to suit their desires.

[Canadian_Mind]

Some things are meant to be pen and paper, this is one of those things.

[ASLplease]

Hell, we already allow people to mail in their votes several weeks in advance,criminals to vote, and we allow muslim women to vote with burkas.

Why are we so afraid of technology?

[DrCaleb]

ASLplease ASLplease:

Hell, we already allow people to mail in their votes several weeks in advance,criminals to vote, and we allow muslim women to vote with burkas.

Why are we so afraid of technology?

Because it can be corrupted. Try scruitineering an election some time, and see how people can argue over what the X in the ( ) really means because it is; {not quite in}/{too far out}/{too light}/{too dark}/{in pen}/{in pencil} . . .

From a computer? Too many people would just accept it at face value, and not question it.

[ASLplease]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

ASLplease ASLplease:

Hell, we already allow people to mail in their votes several weeks in advance,criminals to vote, and we allow muslim women to vote with burkas.

Why are we so afraid of technology?

Because it can be corrupted. Try scruitineering an election some time, and see how people can argue over what the X in the ( ) really means because it is; {not quite in}/{too far out}/{too light}/{too dark}/{in pen}/{in pencil} . . .

From a computer? Too many people would just accept it at face value, and not question it.

All those examples go away when you switch to a computerized system. Are you sure you aren't secretly trying to support my opinion?

[DrCaleb]

ASLplease ASLplease:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

ASLplease ASLplease:

Hell, we already allow people to mail in their votes several weeks in advance,criminals to vote, and we allow muslim women to vote with burkas.

Why are we so afraid of technology?

Because it can be corrupted. Try scruitineering an election some time, and see how people can argue over what the X in the ( ) really means because it is; {not quite in}/{too far out}/{too light}/{too dark}/{in pen}/{in pencil} . . .

From a computer? Too many people would just accept it at face value, and not question it.

All those examples go away when you switch to a computerized system. Are you sure you aren't secretly trying to support my opinion?

The facts don't support your opinion.

http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-Ne ... 052a2.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190
http://mailman.lls.edu/pipermail/electi ... 18695.html
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2008 ... _sta26854/

Etc. ... etc. ...

Corruption is corruption. We are so afraid of technology because it removes the corruption from view.

[ASLplease]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

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The facts don't support your opinion.

http://www.itworldcanada.com/a/Daily-Ne ... 052a2.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190
http://mailman.lls.edu/pipermail/electi ... 18695.html
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2008 ... _sta26854/

Etc. ... etc. ...

Corruption is corruption. We are so afraid of technology because it removes the corruption from view.

thanks for the links, that was some good reading. You are correct that technology to automate may hide the corruption, but I also beleive that technology that tracks all transactions will make it difficult for corruption to hide. There won't be anymore back room miscounts, or record forgeries. And, when or if they happen, the record of it will have to withstand the scrutiny of expert auditors that have no vested interest in your scam.

[Ripcat]

While dwindling voter turnout is a concern, making it 'easier' is not an option in my opinion. Those willing to get off their ass to exercise their right by going to the polling station and voting should be the people that elect our leadership.

If voter turnout is such an issue perhaps election day should be a statuatory holiday but proof of voting must be presented to the employer to get paid for that day. This would cut down on impulse voting as people mostly ignorant of politics would have to actually spend a bit of time thinking about their vote.

[bootlegga]

Ripcat Ripcat:

While dwindling voter turnout is a concern, making it 'easier' is not an option in my opinion. Those willing to get off their ass to exercise their right by going to the polling station and voting should be the people that elect our leadership.

If voter turnout is such an issue perhaps election day should be a statuatory holiday but proof of voting must be presented to the employer to get paid for that day. This would cut down on impulse voting as people mostly ignorant of politics would have to actually spend a bit of time thinking about their vote.

[romanP]

GreenTiger GreenTiger:

It is sad when you see something like this, we have the same problem in the States.

There is a potential problem as one fellow from Toronto pointed out. A foreign power mich cyber attack and change the voting results to suit their desires.

You can think of only one potential problem? A foreign power doesn't have to be the one to attack the system, it could be anyone. It could be someone who wants their tiny fringe party of nutcase cultists to gain seats in Parliament. There are all kinds of things wrong with electronic voting.

[romanP]

ASLplease ASLplease:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

ASLplease ASLplease:

Hell, we already allow people to mail in their votes several weeks in advance,criminals to vote, and we allow muslim women to vote with burkas.

Why are we so afraid of technology?

Because it can be corrupted. Try scruitineering an election some time, and see how people can argue over what the X in the ( ) really means because it is; {not quite in}/{too far out}/{too light}/{too dark}/{in pen}/{in pencil} . . .

From a computer? Too many people would just accept it at face value, and not question it.

All those examples go away when you switch to a computerized system. Are you sure you aren't secretly trying to support my opinion?

That's not a good thing. If there is ever a recount called, there might be no way to determine if the votes were even real, or if they had been changed in the system, if someone really wanted to tamper with the system.

[romanP]

Ripcat Ripcat:

While dwindling voter turnout is a concern, making it 'easier' is not an option in my opinion. Those willing to get off their ass to exercise their right by going to the polling station and voting should be the people that elect our leadership.

If voter turnout is such an issue perhaps election day should be a statuatory holiday but proof of voting must be presented to the employer to get paid for that day. This would cut down on impulse voting as people mostly ignorant of politics would have to actually spend a bit of time thinking about their vote.

People should be paid regardless of whether they vote. Paying people to vote is only going to end up in a lot more people making uninformed decisions at the ballot box, and that's about the last thing we need more of.

[EyeBrock]

One reason not to, FRAUD.

[Scape]

If people can bank online securly they can vote as well. All we need is proper authentication protocol.