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I support a free Tibet, but i do not support violence as a means to an end. Unfortunately some Tibetans have resorted to violence in the most recent protests, as have the Chinese. This is a very complicated issue, and i hope China can resolve this in a mature and fair way.
yah because the Chinese comunist party has shown the moral determination to roll over unarmed citizens with tanks. Who would guess that anything less than total rejection of their moral rule might be met with anything more just. Moderate and polite discussion s fleeting because China is ruled by an illegal and imoral gang of thieves.
i certainly cannot disagree with that. China has made significant progress in the last 30 years though, and i do think China is sometimes unfairly characterized by the West. Just look at the violence in the Balakans last month. We've been dealing with the mess in Serbia for over a century now.
China certainly has a deplorable human rights record, but what legs do we have to stand on. Will we be as critical of ourselves with the Vancouver and London games after the mess that is the "war on terror"??? should the world boycott these games aswell?
People are boycotting China because China kills buddhist monks and harvest there organs and sell them. They kill tibetan monks, and have resorted to violence against tibetan protesters. Even before they got violent.
China also destroyed many Chinese Citizen's homes leaving them homeless just to build the stadium to hold these olympic games. Also I don't remember Canada beating up and killing Quebec sepretists. We just shrugged our shoulders, and are handling it diplomaticly. As for Ireland, I am half Irish and my family lives in Northern Ireland (Belfast) and as far as I could see and understood. The only violence the British took on the Irish were of self defense. I believe it started when British Soldiers thoughts some Irish citizens had weapons and shot them, turned out they diddn't have anything but they were protesters and were angrily protesting something. (Mistakes Happen). However the Irish started rioting against the soldiers, and it escolated from there. That is atleast what I was told. I visted Ireland a couple times, and my mom lived there for a couple of years during the violent times. The only attacks that were held in Ireland, were all by the Irish. Either by terrorists, or by civilians. The situation at the time was 2 times worse then anything happening in Iraq or Afghanistan now. I mean the Irish were really dedicated in fighting the British Military. The British had soldiers on every street corner, helicopters with search lights flew at night. You wern't allowed to point a camera at them, or even point your fingers at them or they would shoot you on sight (Due to the terrorists who put explosives in Cameras and the multiple other things they tried doing on the British Soldiers. The Irish at the begining hanged wire up to decapitate tank commanders, poisoned food and drinks and offered them to the soldiers. You name it, the Irish tried. Despite all this, the British never took as far as what the Chinese are doing now. Irish kids use to throw movan cocktails at cops and the soldiers, and they just deflected it with there riot shields and that was it. Took no action against them, probally because they were just kids.
They only took severe action during terrorist attacks, and any gun fire.
Chinese beat up and killed protesters unprovoked. Only recently provoked by the recent violence they protesters now gave. I am not sure boycotting the olympics will do anything but I know for sure that by not doing it is not helping either. Only thing that does is send the Chinese a message. "Hey China, just would like to make it clear that you apparently can do whatever you want without consiquences"