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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:28 am
 


Title: Driver of car pushed half a kilometre onto Toronto highway recalls 'terrifying' ordeal
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Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2021-03-25 06:21:42
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:28 am
 


Protip: Those signs that you see that say "MERGE" means you must yield right of way to vehicles entering the motorway. T-Boning them because you think you shouldn't have to means you will likely lose your job, license and possibly your freedom.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:50 am
 


Based on that video, it looks like this truck driver needs to have the book thrown at him, but odds are he'll get a slap on the wrist like most drunk drivers, texting drivers, road ragers, etc.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:17 am
 


They need to reteach the way we drive. I was taught to drive in the right lane and pass in the left lane. That is still the way that it should be done on a four lane highway. ESPECIALLY the PASSING part. Way to many drivers camping out in the passing lane doing the speed limit. It creates road rage and causes accidents when drivers are weaving in and out of traffic to get around these people. Get out off the passing lane if you are not passing. If someone wants to speed, let them. Its their ticket.

That said the majority of the interstates are no longer four lanes unless you are driving in a very rural state. Eight lanes are the norm. When driving on an eight lane highway, the far right lane should only be used by people entering or exiting the highway. You have no business being in that lane unless you are taking the very next exit. People camping out in the far right lane prevents people from getting on the highway safely. Kind of what we see here in this video. Get on the highway, and get out of the far right lane. Pass in the far left lane, then get out of the far left lane. Drive in the middle two lanes. I am all for super steep tickets for people camping out in the far right or left lanes. Start at $1000 for the first offence, move up from there.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:23 am
 


rickc rickc:
They need to reteach the way we drive. I was taught to drive in the right lane and pass in the left lane.


That is the law around here. People may even see the signs "Keep Right Except to PASS". But they made up some notion that the left lane is the 'FAST' lane, so if you are going fast that is the lane for you. :?


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rickc rickc:
They need to reteach the way we drive. I was taught to drive in the right lane and pass in the left lane. That is still the way that it should be done on a four lane highway. ESPECIALLY the PASSING part. Way to many drivers camping out in the passing lane doing the speed limit. It creates road rage and causes accidents when drivers are weaving in and out of traffic to get around these people. Get out off the passing lane if you are not passing. If someone wants to speed, let them. Its their ticket.

That said the majority of the interstates are no longer four lanes unless you are driving in a very rural state. Eight lanes are the norm. When driving on an eight lane highway, the far right lane should only be used by people entering or exiting the highway. You have no business being in that lane unless you are taking the very next exit. People camping out in the far right lane prevents people from getting on the highway safely. Kind of what we see here in this video. Get on the highway, and get out of the far right lane. Pass in the far left lane, then get out of the far left lane. Drive in the middle two lanes. I am all for super steep tickets for people camping out in the far right or left lanes. Start at $1000 for the first offence, move up from there.


I agree on the re-training part, and think that drivers should have to retake their driving test at least every 10 years, if not every 5 years.

I disagree on the 'let them speed' argument - I'd argue we need more enforcement (automated and by officers) because speed is a real killer. I don't know about US stats, but up here, almost 1/4 of all crashes have speed as a factor (sometimes in conjunction with distraction or impairment too).

In my experience driving through 15 or 20 states, interstates are only eight lanes in urban areas, and only 4 lanes when they go through rural areas (I-5, I-15, I-94, I-29, etc.), but if they've gone to 8 lanes in most places, that's a good thing. I typically drive in the middle lane, or if there is one, in the HOV lane.


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bootlegga bootlegga:
rickc rickc:
They need to reteach the way we drive. I was taught to drive in the right lane and pass in the left lane. That is still the way that it should be done on a four lane highway. ESPECIALLY the PASSING part. Way to many drivers camping out in the passing lane doing the speed limit. It creates road rage and causes accidents when drivers are weaving in and out of traffic to get around these people. Get out off the passing lane if you are not passing. If someone wants to speed, let them. Its their ticket.

That said the majority of the interstates are no longer four lanes unless you are driving in a very rural state. Eight lanes are the norm. When driving on an eight lane highway, the far right lane should only be used by people entering or exiting the highway. You have no business being in that lane unless you are taking the very next exit. People camping out in the far right lane prevents people from getting on the highway safely. Kind of what we see here in this video. Get on the highway, and get out of the far right lane. Pass in the far left lane, then get out of the far left lane. Drive in the middle two lanes. I am all for super steep tickets for people camping out in the far right or left lanes. Start at $1000 for the first offence, move up from there.


I agree on the re-training part, and think that drivers should have to retake their driving test at least every 10 years, if not every 5 years.

I disagree on the 'let them speed' argument - I'd argue we need more enforcement (automated and by officers) because speed is a real killer. I don't know about US stats, but up here, almost 1/4 of all crashes have speed as a factor (sometimes in conjunction with distraction or impairment too).

In my experience driving through 15 or 20 states, interstates are only eight lanes in urban areas, and only 4 lanes when they go through rural areas (I-5, I-15, I-94, I-29, etc.), but if they've gone to 8 lanes in most places, that's a good thing. I typically drive in the middle lane, or if there is one, in the HOV lane.

I did not mean that the police should let people speed. I mean that people that get in the far left lane and then refuse to move over need to let speeders go by. People get behind them and flash their lights and honk their horn. The people refuse to move over as they are doing the speed limit and feel that it is their job to enforce the limit. People refusing to give up the passing lane is a major cause of road rage in the U.S. I have almost been involved in numerous accidents because the guy that is road raging cuts in front of me with inches to spare to pass the guy camping out in the passing lane. I have seen people go into the breakdown lane (throwing rocks everywhere, cracking windshields) to get around people hanging out in the passing lane. I have seen cars rolled over in the medium that tried to pass on the left without a lane.

What I meant was that if you as a driver are in the passing lane and someone wants to pass you, than move over and let them. There are cops everywhere. Its only a matter of time before they get pulled over. I would rather have the police pull them over and heavily ticket them (maybe impound their car) than have them kill a bunch of innocent people attempting to go around the person camping out in the passing lane. DRIVERS need to let them go, cops don't. Get out of the way and make it easy for the cops to single them out with the laser gun. It is easier to get a lock on them when no one is in front of them blocking the laser gun.

Nothing I enjoy more than to let some speeding asshole go by only to see them pulled over by the police a few miles up the road! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:48 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
rickc rickc:
They need to reteach the way we drive. I was taught to drive in the right lane and pass in the left lane. That is still the way that it should be done on a four lane highway. ESPECIALLY the PASSING part. Way to many drivers camping out in the passing lane doing the speed limit. It creates road rage and causes accidents when drivers are weaving in and out of traffic to get around these people. Get out off the passing lane if you are not passing. If someone wants to speed, let them. Its their ticket.

That said the majority of the interstates are no longer four lanes unless you are driving in a very rural state. Eight lanes are the norm. When driving on an eight lane highway, the far right lane should only be used by people entering or exiting the highway. You have no business being in that lane unless you are taking the very next exit. People camping out in the far right lane prevents people from getting on the highway safely. Kind of what we see here in this video. Get on the highway, and get out of the far right lane. Pass in the far left lane, then get out of the far left lane. Drive in the middle two lanes. I am all for super steep tickets for people camping out in the far right or left lanes. Start at $1000 for the first offence, move up from there.


I agree on the re-training part, and think that drivers should have to retake their driving test at least every 10 years, if not every 5 years.

I disagree on the 'let them speed' argument - I'd argue we need more enforcement (automated and by officers) because speed is a real killer. I don't know about US stats, but up here, almost 1/4 of all crashes have speed as a factor (sometimes in conjunction with distraction or impairment too).

In my experience driving through 15 or 20 states, interstates are only eight lanes in urban areas, and only 4 lanes when they go through rural areas (I-5, I-15, I-94, I-29, etc.), but if they've gone to 8 lanes in most places, that's a good thing. I typically drive in the middle lane, or if there is one, in the HOV lane.

Around here it's more dangerous to drive the speed limit than it is to speed, since no one goes it. Driving 100 on the 401 in the GTA is a genuinely terrifying experience.


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Tricks Tricks:
bootlegga bootlegga:
rickc rickc:
They need to reteach the way we drive. I was taught to drive in the right lane and pass in the left lane. That is still the way that it should be done on a four lane highway. ESPECIALLY the PASSING part. Way to many drivers camping out in the passing lane doing the speed limit. It creates road rage and causes accidents when drivers are weaving in and out of traffic to get around these people. Get out off the passing lane if you are not passing. If someone wants to speed, let them. Its their ticket.

That said the majority of the interstates are no longer four lanes unless you are driving in a very rural state. Eight lanes are the norm. When driving on an eight lane highway, the far right lane should only be used by people entering or exiting the highway. You have no business being in that lane unless you are taking the very next exit. People camping out in the far right lane prevents people from getting on the highway safely. Kind of what we see here in this video. Get on the highway, and get out of the far right lane. Pass in the far left lane, then get out of the far left lane. Drive in the middle two lanes. I am all for super steep tickets for people camping out in the far right or left lanes. Start at $1000 for the first offence, move up from there.


I agree on the re-training part, and think that drivers should have to retake their driving test at least every 10 years, if not every 5 years.

I disagree on the 'let them speed' argument - I'd argue we need more enforcement (automated and by officers) because speed is a real killer. I don't know about US stats, but up here, almost 1/4 of all crashes have speed as a factor (sometimes in conjunction with distraction or impairment too).

In my experience driving through 15 or 20 states, interstates are only eight lanes in urban areas, and only 4 lanes when they go through rural areas (I-5, I-15, I-94, I-29, etc.), but if they've gone to 8 lanes in most places, that's a good thing. I typically drive in the middle lane, or if there is one, in the HOV lane.


Around here it's more dangerous to drive the speed limit than it is to speed, since no one goes it. Driving 100 on the 401 in the GTA is a genuinely terrifying experience.


People often say the same about the QEII here in Alberta, but it doesn't bother me to sit in the right lane and only move over to pass slow moving semis, then get back in the right lane.

I drove the 401 at the speed limit when I was there a few years ago, and it didn't bother me one bit. Of course, most of the 401 is 5 or 6 lanes wide in the GTA, so it's easy to stay in a middle lane until it gets close to your exit (although the feeder lanes took some getting used to).

Then again, I've driven in a lot of countries around the world (Asia, Europe, North America), so I'm not your typical driver that gets phased by a lot of things while driving.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:21 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:

Then again, I've driven in a lot of countries around the world (Asia, Europe, North America), so I'm not your typical driver that gets phased by a lot of things while driving.


Ever driven through Barcelona, That's an experience. 8O


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Tricks Tricks:
Around here it's more dangerous to drive the speed limit than it is to speed, since no one goes it. Driving 100 on the 401 in the GTA is a genuinely terrifying experience.


Calgary too. It's go with the flow or don't get on the road at all. Driving at least 10 kph over the limit on most of the major roads is a safety requirement just to get the tailgaters to leave you alone. Doing the limit on Deerfoot or the ring road is a good way to end up gettin' got. And, as those two roads are provincial highways, it's made even worse by our provincial government refusing to allow photo radar on them because that would be "anti-freedom" or whatever. :roll:


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Thanos Thanos:
And, as those two roads are provincial highways, it's made even worse by our provincial government refusing to allow photo radar on them because that would be "anti-freedom" or whatever. :roll:


I quite agree with that. People speed, slam on their brakes for the radar, then speed. It's dangerous.

More roving cars is what is needed.


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Thanos Thanos:
Tricks Tricks:
Around here it's more dangerous to drive the speed limit than it is to speed, since no one goes it. Driving 100 on the 401 in the GTA is a genuinely terrifying experience.


Calgary too. It's go with the flow or don't get on the road at all. Driving at least 10 kph over the limit on most of the major roads is a safety requirement just to get the tailgaters to leave you alone. Doing the limit on Deerfoot or the ring road is a good way to end up gettin' got. And, as those two roads are provincial highways, it's made even worse by our provincial government refusing to allow photo radar on them because that would be "anti-freedom" or whatever. :roll:


Are you sure you guys don't have photo radar on Stoney Trail? Under provincial rules, cities/towns can put them on provincial highways in their jurisdictions.

Edmonton has a dozen or so spots on the Henday where they use photo radar. Same goes for Edson, Hinton, Devon and some other towns along provincial highways.

St Albert and Sherwood Park go the other way and employ police cars on the overpasses and pull speeders over like crazy (generally in non-rush hour times).


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:55 pm
 


My inner neo-fascist is looking forward to the day when high-speed drones that can clock up to 200 kph are swarming all over the roadways and chasing vehicles to get pics not just of the vehicle & license plate but also of the driver as well. This is how much I hate those whose idea of freedom is to act like a prick all the time. Vengeance against all who ever gave me a bad time in traffic, even when I was also doing at least 20 kph over the speed limit! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:59 pm
 


The thing I’m still not clear on; is who merged into who? The driver says she was getting on to the highway when it happened. Did she not see the truck? Or did the truck not see her? I assume since it’s the trucker who’s getting all the tickets, he’s at fault. But it’s still ambiguous to me. But there’s also a lot of people out there who think they can beat a truck and then find out painfully how much big rigs can’t stop on a dime.


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