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It does lay bare the inadequacies of Modern Society

It's not so much modern society as it is the criminal justice system and the current state of police. Modern society is also what drew the attention to it and made it known that it isn't okay to kill an unarmed black man in the streets.


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The same society that enabled the Cop to believe that he could get away with killing a black man in the street.

Society did not say it was wrong, it was the perceived "fringes" of society that said it wrong, and then backed that up with months of protests.

Modern Society would have allowed that cop to back to work.


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Modern Society would have allowed that cop to back to work.


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It it hadn't been live streamed by bystanders, it's likely the story would have changed to have Floyd with a weapon and the whole thing covered up. Like they do.

Remember, several other cops stood by and protected Chauvin while he killed Floyd. Their trials are later this year.


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llama66 llama66:
The same society that enabled the Cop to believe that he could get away with killing a black man in the street.

Society did not say it was wrong, it was the perceived "fringes" of society that said it wrong, and then backed that up with months of protests.

Modern Society would have allowed that cop to back to work.

I don't think it was fringes. Most americans said he should be convicted of murder.


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No, he won't. The Video is pretty conclusive. He murdered George Floyd. Kneeling on someones neck is not standard use of force.


you have your opinion, but in this round there way no other choice. No juror would have a life if they didn't convict. But in the trial, which I followed, even the prosecutor acknowledged that most of the time his knee was on his back, not his neck.

I don't care about the chief of police and what he said, the use of force instructor said he followed well documented police procedures.

He will at best get involuntary manslaughter when this goes to appeal court. At worse, it will be considered a mistrial and likely will be set in another venue.


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Didn't Chauvin also have a list of prior complaints against him as long as his arm even before he ever met Floyd?


I know it’s easy to sit around and criticize the police but the record of those officers does seem dodgy.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-ca/2020/0 ... tory-force

America needs to smarten up in a lot of areas, including its fractured and ramshackle system of policing. I see there is something called a National Decertification Index

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ ... s-n1242696

But what the US (and not only the US) needs is a National Registry maintained by the government which, at the very least, issues guidelines on minimum standards of training, gives every police member a unique identifying number, publishes every upheld complaint, including the name of the officer, and records when fired or disciplined officers move to work in policing elsewhere.


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JaredMilne JaredMilne:
Didn't Chauvin also have a list of prior complaints against him as long as his arm even before he ever met Floyd?


I know it’s easy to sit around and criticize the police but the record of those officers does seem dodgy.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-ca/2020/0 ... tory-force


Also, the Minneapolis Police Report for that night is still online.

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May 25, 2020 (MINNEAPOLIS) On Monday evening, shortly after 8:00 pm, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department responded to the 3700 block of Chicago Avenue South on a report of a forgery in progress. Officers were advised that the suspect was sitting on top of a blue car and appeared to be under the influence.

Two officers arrived and located the suspect, a male believed to be in his 40s, in his car. He was ordered to step from his car. After he got out, he physically resisted officers. Officers were able to get the suspect into handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. Officers called for an ambulance. He was transported to Hennepin County Medical Center by ambulance where he died a short time later.

At no time were weapons of any type used by anyone involved in this incident.

The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension has been called in to investigate this incident at the request of the Minneapolis Police Department.

No officers were injured in the incident.

Body worn cameras were on and activated during this incident.

The GO number associated with this case is 20-140629.


https://archive.li/pwxX3


"Dodgy" is a bit light.


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Didn't someone already post similar views earlier in this thread. Hmmmmmmm. [huh]


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The idea that jurors felt threatened doesn't really hold water. The same could be said for any number of similar past trials, where jurors let the cop(s) walk. Rodney King comes to mind. Or Breonna Taylor. Lots of others.

Ben Shapiro is a stupid person's idea of an intellectual.


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llama66 llama66:
No, he won't. The Video is pretty conclusive. He murdered George Floyd. Kneeling on someones neck is not standard use of force.


you have your opinion, but in this round there way no other choice. No juror would have a life if they didn't convict. But in the trial, which I followed, even the prosecutor acknowledged that most of the time his knee was on his back, not his neck.


A knee on the back can compress your lungs and asphyxiate you in the same fashion a knee on your neck would. It's pretty simple, if you lungs cannot expand, you cannot draw breath.


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