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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:38 pm
Gotta keep those legs trim in a kilt mate...
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:51 pm
Scots rule, limey bastards drool ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif) Just messin wiff ya EB
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:56 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: Scots rule, limey bastards drool ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif) Just messin wiff ya EB No probs! My Dad was a piper in the Scots Greys. All good! (He was Irish)
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meee223
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Posts: 91
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:26 pm
I don't understand why anyone would really care about this guy getting released. I mean, so what? He's got terminal cancer with only 2 or 3 months left to live and anyone who's ever known anyone who's suffered with cancer knows that every day is usually filled with agonizing pain. He's not getting out and going home to enjoy life. He's going home to suffer horrible pain and die. So what's the difference if he does it in prison or out of prison? Why do people let their blood boil for no reason at all? Don't they have anything better to do?
And another thing...some people always believe the courts are right. If they convict someone of a crime, then that's it, they are guilty. The fact is, they don't come up with the right verdict all the time. I don't trust the court system to get it right and most likely never will. In this case, most Britons believe he's not guilty. Even the father of one victim has said he isn't. Personally, I have no idea if he's guilty or not, but I'm not going to make an issue of him being released if he's going to die anyway in 3 months time and suffer in agony until that day comes. Why would anyone care is beyond me.
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Brenda
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Posts: 50938
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:55 pm
That agonizing pain is exactly what he deserved to have after killing 270 people.
I think that if you are a parent of one of those people, and you see him go home, and treated like a hero, you would sing a different tune. Just my .02...
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ridenrain
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:58 pm
About 270 reasons why he should rot in prison. 0:
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Posts: 1092
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:11 pm
Yes it is sad that we continue to be weak to the terrorists as this is the spot they work on .
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meee223
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Posts: 91
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:21 pm
As I said, for many, if a court says someone is guilty of a terrible crime, (like this one), then they must be guilty. You are saying he is guilty, Brenda, because the court said he is. The courts are never wrong. Is that correct? No wonder lots of innocent people, including many in Canada, are being proven innocent through DNA and are being released after spending years in prison...And especially in Canada in recent years. And why did they spend years in prison? The court said they're guilty and the citizens of this country said ...I guess they are, then. In so many cases, it doesn't matter to the authorities if someone is innocent or guilty. They need to find someone, anyone, to charge with the crime or they come off looking bad. They will suppress evidence if it helps the person charged. They'll do anything to get a conviction so they (the authorities) look good. That's the way justice works around the world. And again, they know most people will believe the person guilty if he is found guilty. Most people will never question anything.
And no, I wouldn't be singing a different tune if my kid was one of those victims. In prison or sent home...what real difference does it make in this case? To suffer excruciating cancer pain and die, what the heck does it matter where he is? Answer, it doesn't matter. Why do people want to make a mountain out of a molehill? Get a life and squawk about something that actually matters in the world.
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Brenda
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Posts: 50938
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:26 pm
He was not released because he was deemed innocent. He was released because the fucker is going to die. So, yes, I still believe in justice. Can you prove he was innocent? if not, please, don't troll, and leave the victims rest in peace, and have a little respect for their families. Thank you very much. $1: Why do people want to make a mountain out of a molehill? Get a life and squawk about something that actually matters in the world. Excuse me? Who the fuck are you to tell the rest of the world what matters to them?
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Posts: 1092
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:27 pm
Yes you are both right but he should have stayed in prison as the victims died without theirs there Relatives that is .
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:37 pm
Wouldn't it be something if this guys cancer suddenly went into remission?
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:37 pm
meee223:
You seemed to be very quick to judge in the youth laws thread so why are you now so soft?
Mohammed Mansour Jabarah Mahmoud Mohammad Issa Mohammed Essam Marzouk Ahmed Ressam
Were they all innocent or framed too?
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Brenda
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Posts: 50938
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:39 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: Wouldn't it be something if this guys cancer suddenly went into remission? It wouldn't be the first time that has happened to people...
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:17 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: Wouldn't it be something if this guys cancer suddenly went into remission? Pinochet...........
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meee223
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Posts: 91
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:23 pm
I have no idea if the guy is innocent or guilty. I'm just saying the justice system isn't perfect and lots of people languish in prison for years and are later proved innocent, usually via DNA. I'm only saying that in most cases, people learn that someone is arrested for a crime and then if they are found guilty, knowing nothing about any evidence or lack of, they assume the court decision is right and then rip into the person. That's all I'm saying. As I said, I don't know if this guy is guilty or not and I'm not saying I believe he is either innocent or guilty. I don't have a clue. However, I find it strange that the majority of Britons don't believe he is guilty and the father of one victim doesn't believe it either. I just wonder why? If the evidence is so strong against this guy, then why are there these doubts? I'm just asking. I just cannot read that he was found guilty, so therefore I'm going to tear into this guy and call him every name in the book. I don't give a damn what the court said. I personally don't know his guilt or innocence, so unlike most of you, I will not rip him apart. Not knowing, I just have to let the justice system take its course, good or bad. And by not ripping into him, I'm still respecting the families. I'm only going to hate someone if I can know for sure of someone's guilt. And that just isn't the case here, no matter what the court said, especially with all the doubts I have mentioned. Anyway, in my opinion, I just don't see any issue here, so I can't figure out why people are getting so angry. He wasn't released to go out and enjoy life. He wasn't released because his sentence was reduced from life to 8 years. He was released because he's dying. There is NO benefit to him by getting released. That's what everyone here seems to think. He's not free to do anything he wants to do. He can't enjoy freedom like someone who is healthy. He can't enjoy anything in life anymore, so what is the big deal? I don't mean to tell anyone what to care about, but it seems like it's really rather unimportant in the grand scheme of all the problems going on in the world. And sure, his family can console him, but they could also come to the prison and do the same. Even in prison, they would make sure he was comfortable, being in his condition. His treatment, being sick with cancer, would be the same, in prison, or outside of it. In the Toronto Sun today, there were two columnists going on and on about this issue of why the heck was this guy being released. I just don't think it's anything worth while to write about. That's my opinion, that's all. I still care about the victims, of course. But I just felt that being released still is of no benefit whatsoever to this guy at all, not when he's got a terminal illness, so therefore, I don't care, and honestly do not understand why anyone would. That's all!
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