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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 12:05 pm
 


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Garbage Collection Technicians or Garbage Reallocation Specialists.
Sooo they're no longer Sanitation Engineers? :lol:

THey get paid like engineers! District just hired one this spring starting wage was $34 an hour & benefits

All independent contractor around here now... they must be getting a little over minimum wage. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 1:59 pm
 


llama66 llama66:
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garbagemen

What is this? 1970?


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Turns out that no export permits to ship trash to Asia have been given out for three years but new shipments are still arriving their because Canada-originated garbage is still permitted to go to the US. It's then out of the Canadian system but ends up in Asia because American companies transfer it there anyway:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/garbag ... -1.5154278

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The federal government has issued no permits for Canadian companies to ship trash overseas since regulations changed three years ago — raising questions about how waste is still ending up on the shores of Asian nations.

Canada introduced new regulations in 2016 requiring exporters to get permits to ship waste other countries would consider hazardous, including trash. The changes were the result of the diplomatic dustup with the Philippines over 103 containers of trash that arrived in ports there in 2013 and 2014 wrongly labelled as plastics for recycling.

"This garbage was shipped to the Philippines under the previous Conservative government, when Canada's regulations did not comply with the international standards set out in the Basel Convention," said Sabrina Kim, spokeswoman for Environment Minister Catherine McKenna. "In 2016, we amended our regulations to prevent this situation from happening again."

Canada is investigating the Malaysia situation now. Canadian officials have thus far refused to say whether any other countries are requesting Canada take back garbage.
Statistics Canada reports the country exported 44,800 tonnes of plastic waste in 2018, much of it to the United States. Once waste goes to the U.S. it is not tracked to determine what happens to it in the end. Brooks said plastics that originate in Canada are often mixed with American waste and then shipped to Asia.

Canada is not the only culprit. Canada's container was among 60 that Malaysia says were imported illegally from 14 different countries, including the United States, Japan, France, Australia and the United Kingdom. The Philippines has complained of illegal trash turn up from Australia and South Korea. Indonesia, Vietnam and Thailand have all reported an increase in global garbage dumps, as unscrupulous business owners try to get in on the $3-billion trash industry.

Both Malaysia and the Philippines are looking at their own importing businesses as part of the problem — companies that get paid to take plastics for recycling but then just dump them in landfills or burn them.

The issue has become particularly bad since China, once the world's largest importer of recycling plastics, slammed its doors to the materials last year. China found it was disposing more than it was recycling because the materials arriving in its ports were often too contaminated with food waste and non-recyclables to be useful.


Clever end run around taking responsibility for the problem. Third-party shipping has always been a terrific way to create the appearance of innocence out of obvious guilt. :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 2:36 pm
 


The trash is coming to British Columbia, how fitting......oh wait! 8O :lol:


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I've decided as of right now that I'm going to junk any plastic that goes though our home. I'm not going to participate in what's turned out to be a massive scam. More importantly I'm not going to contribute to the polluting of some third-world country that's happening due to the irresponsibility of Canada and other Western countries. And I'm certainly not going to do anything that helps the Pacific Ocean garbage gyre get even worse than it already is - if plastics recycling has turned into such a joke then it's a good goddamn guarantee that some of these fly-by-nighters that are grifting the programs are just dumping the garbage at sea instead of risking that the ports in Asia won't let them off-load the trash.

Fuck this. Everyone should boycott this bullshit because it's obviously just another bloody lie the utopian salesman sold to us. :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:46 pm
 


Time to get the old burn barrel going again. :D


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Wouldn't go that far, not even for paper and cardboard. Being deep inland I'm quite sure my bagged plastic trash won't end up in the ocean, even if it going to the landfill isn't the best possible solution.


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:33 pm
 


FFS this isn't plastic recycling, they actually recycle plastic and they do it here.
Read their complaints, there's diapers and all kinds of rotting crap that isn't plastic in those containers, that's the very reason the Phillipines want to send it back.

Quit trying to say that because someone threw a dead dog in the recycling container in my town the whole concept of recycling is a fraud and a failure.


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 10:03 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
Clever end run around taking responsibility for the problem. Third-party shipping has always been a terrific way to create the appearance of innocence out of obvious guilt. :evil:


Hey it's better than sending all those containers back to Asia completely empty. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 11:46 pm
 


Same thing is happening to China but they don't care. They're just burning the trash in power generating incinerators.


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:38 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Time to get the old burn barrel going again. :D


I live in the boonies. I never stopped. But I burn very little.

I sort my plastic, paper and metal and take them to the recycle section of the dump myself. I compost food scraps that the magpies won't eat. The little bit that is left; contaminated paper, plastic that can't be recycled - all get burnt.


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 5:40 am
 


herbie herbie:
FFS this isn't plastic recycling, they actually recycle plastic and they do it here.
Read their complaints, there's diapers and all kinds of rotting crap that isn't plastic in those containers, that's the very reason the Phillipines want to send it back.


Read the article. Malaysia, not the Philippines. And the CBC reporter on the scene gave a detailed description of the seacan's contents. Mostly plastic bags, and many contaminated. This crap can't be recycled, it's garbage.


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 8:12 am
 


I'd say lets load our politicians into a seacan and ship them overseas. But I know that trash would be returned immediately.


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 9:17 am
 


Canada sent Celine Dion into the World and she returned just like this trash is.


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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 9:19 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Time to get the old burn barrel going again. :D


I live in the boonies. I never stopped. But I burn very little.

I sort my plastic, paper and metal and take them to the recycle section of the dump myself. I compost food scraps that the magpies won't eat. The little bit that is left; contaminated paper, plastic that can't be recycled - all get burnt.

Does the plastic actually burn up properly?


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