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andyt
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:31 pm
Maybe this will get the Libs and Dips talking a coalition like the Reform and Conservatives did. Might be a good thing.
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:34 pm
On my other political forum one wit said that Quebecers had shifted from one third rate party to another third rate party.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:36 pm
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:37 pm
The opposition called an election when they were down in the polls, Harper announced after the election call he would give the Bloc what they wanted for support ($2 billion for the 1991 Quebec HST move) and all parties have made promises to spend billions while the deficit is very high. No party said they would mind the till, wait until there was a surplus and see what the priorities were. Here's some economist on how difficult it will be to balance the budget. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/poli ... s-say?bn=1I'd still like to see a punch up. Maybe Ignatieff get his myopic self smitten face properly bloodied.
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:13 pm
I hope Jack keeps rising in the polls. It would be wonderful to see his party form the official opposition instead of the liberals. I believe Mr Harper and Mr Layton would work well together. I hope the NDP takes votes from the Bloc too and decreasing their numbers in the House would be great for Canada. 
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:31 pm
I never ever ever ever ever ever ever wanna see the NDP in power. But as the Official Opposition, I could live with that.
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:34 am
People heard "pension" but here's what the NDP would charge the children for Mom and Dad Doubling the CPP would mean higher premiums for workers (currently set at $2,217 for 2011). Doubling benefits would presumably mean doubling that to $4,400 a year. Employers would also have to boost premiums, offsetting the impact of other job-creating incentives in the NDP platform. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1995810/
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:02 am
Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii: People heard "pension" but here's what the NDP would charge the children for Mom and Dad Doubling the CPP would mean higher premiums for workers (currently set at $2,217 for 2011). Doubling benefits would presumably mean doubling that to $4,400 a year. Employers would also have to boost premiums, offsetting the impact of other job-creating incentives in the NDP platform. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1995810/It's a good idea. It forces people to save now, so the govt doesn't have to support them later, since the CPP is self funding. This is exactly the sort of program we need. It costs the govt nothing, in fact saves it money. It's exactly the sort of fiscal discipline we need.
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:06 am
andyt andyt: Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii: People heard "pension" but here's what the NDP would charge the children for Mom and Dad Doubling the CPP would mean higher premiums for workers (currently set at $2,217 for 2011). Doubling benefits would presumably mean doubling that to $4,400 a year. Employers would also have to boost premiums, offsetting the impact of other job-creating incentives in the NDP platform. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1995810/It's a good idea. It forces people to save now, so the govt doesn't have to support them later, since the CPP is self funding. This is exactly the sort of program we need. It costs the govt nothing, in fact saves it money. It's exactly the sort of fiscal discipline we need. You seem to need a morning coffee. To pay oldsters double the pension you'd have to tax better off workers another $2,183. If you're talking two good income families with children that's $4,366. That's a lot of cake out of the family budget.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:08 pm
andyt andyt: Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii: People heard "pension" but here's what the NDP would charge the children for Mom and Dad Doubling the CPP would mean higher premiums for workers (currently set at $2,217 for 2011). Doubling benefits would presumably mean doubling that to $4,400 a year. Employers would also have to boost premiums, offsetting the impact of other job-creating incentives in the NDP platform. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le1995810/It's a good idea. It forces people to save now, so the govt doesn't have to support them later, since the CPP is self funding. This is exactly the sort of program we need. It costs the govt nothing, in fact saves it money. It's exactly the sort of fiscal discipline we need. Andyt: I agree with you that we Canadians need to be more fiscally responsible for our later years, I have to ask thou mostly cause I don't know for sure, after the "babyboomers" are retired, is there going to be a CPP? All I know is that predictions are stating that the following generations won't be able to pay enough into as the current retiree's are taking out. IF and only IF that's the case then to up the CPP premiums would have to be taken even one step further to ensure that the remaining generations will have access to a very useful program. Just my brain wondering. On the another note. Even though I don't support the NDP I wouldn't mind that they formed the Official Opposition. They actually have a strong platform to work from. I find that a lot of the liberal platform is just too weak. I don't know if it comes down to Iggy or the platform but they just don't have what it takes right now. I see them falling further and the NDP rising. GB
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andyt
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:09 pm
The CPP is expected to be OK for about 30 years, as far as I know. I'm sure somebody here has a more authoritative answer. In 30 years I'll be dead and the world will be a mess anyway, so who cares.
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:30 pm
andyt andyt: The CPP is expected to be OK for about 30 years, as far as I know. I'm sure somebody here has a more authoritative answer. In 30 years I'll be dead and the world will be a mess anyway, so who cares. That's my understanding as well. Paul Martin increased taxes 1/2 % of GDP to fuel the CPP fund, the investment agency. He got the job done.
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Bruce_the_vii
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:31 pm
Gunbunny Gunbunny: On the another note. Even though I don't support the NDP I wouldn't mind that they formed the Official Opposition. They actually have a strong platform to work from. I find that a lot of the liberal platform is just too weak. I don't know if it comes down to Iggy or the platform but they just don't have what it takes right now. I see them falling further and the NDP rising.
GB
The NDP have made some pretty expensive promises. They have a stronger platform, sure, but just try to get the middle class to endure stiff tax increases.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:37 pm
Go Jack ! Every vote to Orange County is a vote less for the Reds ! 
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