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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:16 pm
 


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So I was on a big conference call for work for the entire security division. They talked about this and a guy who lives near the school was talking about the response. He said someone put 215 crosses on the highway.

I wonder if that person realises that the church likely killed these kids... And that it might actually be insanely offensive.

And that shows how little Canadians are aware of what the residential school system was when they think throwing down crosses for the kids is an acceptable thing to do.


Here in Edmonton the memorial for those poor children was made up of children's shoes, which is far more poignant than crosses IMHO.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:41 pm
 


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I'm saying using a catholic symbol for the deaths of these children when the catholic system is what killed them is a weird choice.

And using that symbol to me shows that either they don't know who perpetrated these crimes, or they just don't care and their own beliefs is more important. You know, like the reason the residential schools happened.


It's not a Catholic thing, it's a Christian thing. Different sects have different crosses, but that one is pretty generic. I doubt anyone would see it as offensive.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:10 pm
 


I'm sure that putting up crosses for the children would have been done with the best of intentions and genuine sympathy and real distress over what was done. There's no way though that it wouldn't have been seen as, at a minimum, completely tone deaf by a lot of Natives. What was done to them over the course of centuries was mostly done in the name of Christ, in that twisted way of thinking that developed in Britain and Europe for over a thousand years that literally turned Christianity into a murderous imperial weapon. To use it as some kind of gesture of goodness when it was used as such a rank evil for so many years indicates a genuinely deep and entrenched obliviousness that obviously hasn't dissipated very much over the years.

The cross belongs now, and always will too, to those who intend to cause terrible harm as much as it does to those who want to do actual good. It's been branded with fire onto the collective human spirit and there is nothing that can be done to ever change it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:38 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Tricks Tricks:
I'm saying using a catholic symbol for the deaths of these children when the catholic system is what killed them is a weird choice.

And using that symbol to me shows that either they don't know who perpetrated these crimes, or they just don't care and their own beliefs is more important. You know, like the reason the residential schools happened.


It's not a Catholic thing, it's a Christian thing. Different sects have different crosses, but that one is pretty generic. I doubt anyone would see it as offensive.

It's a church thing. And the church is at least 50% responsible for this.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:41 pm
 


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It's a church thing. And the church is at least 50% responsible for this.


More like 100%.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:52 pm
 


Government and church working together on terrible policy is always the road to hell for some poor bastards near the bottom of the food chain.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:39 am
 


CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
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It's a church thing. And the church is at least 50% responsible for this.


More like 100%.

-J.

The government had a hand in it as well.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:29 pm
 


Catholic and Protestant church were contracted out for this work. The split was 70/30 but the government hold the contracts.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:51 pm
 


This was back in a period of time when the church had a hell of a lot more influence on governments then they do now.

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‘The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.’
- Aldous Huxley


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Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

CS Lewis


Never discount the appeal of being a sadist when it comes to forcibly changing someone else "for their own good". The deaths and the cruelty don't matter at all as long as the soul is saved, n'est pas?

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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Tricks Tricks:
I'm saying using a catholic symbol for the deaths of these children when the catholic system is what killed them is a weird choice.

And using that symbol to me shows that either they don't know who perpetrated these crimes, or they just don't care and their own beliefs is more important. You know, like the reason the residential schools happened.


It's not a Catholic thing, it's a Christian thing. Different sects have different crosses, but that one is pretty generic. I doubt anyone would see it as offensive.


Some do some don’t. I don’t people are trying to remember them in their own way and acknowledge them. The acknowledgment is what a lot are after. We are really tired of hearing on that never happened or that happened before I was born. Both of which are wrong. Most people don’t want to acknowledge or look up dates most of which aren’t that long ago. You can’t just pretend that stuff isn’t still happening. Yeah most people don’t say dirty little Indians out loud but they think it when looking at housing on reserves. The free housing isn’t what you think and you can’t get a bank mortgage cause you don’t really own it and the bank can’t repo it. You know after Walkerton all water treatment plants in Ontario were upgraded unless it was on a reserve. That’s federal and they don’t care. You should also know that the so called free money has strings attached. Government says yeah get quotes and submit for approval. Then the paperwork gets lost found turned into compost oh look your quotes are out of date you have to start again. Or my personal favourite you can’t submit photocopies when they are the ones who copied it and returned the original!!!!!! Not too mention one little piss ant with dilutions can derail almost anything with little to no blowback. It’s the same shit that happens at veterans affairs when they make people prove that they were broken in the military. Or workmen’s comp when they keep sending the same form asking the same question that has already been asked and answered. They are just trying to make people give up and go away


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