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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:27 pm
 


Title: What�s the deal with union benefits?
Category: Business
Posted By: RUEZ
Date: 2009-06-20 14:16:02
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:27 pm
 


A contract is between the employer and the union (workers) contracts usally contain perks to help with hiring and retention of good employees. Some, I agree can be a bit out there.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:53 pm
 


kenmore kenmore:
A contract is between the employer and the union (workers) contracts usally contain perks to help with hiring and retention of good employees. Some, I agree can be a bit out there.


Does little to keep good employees, as the good employees get pissed off that the union keeps the useless people around who do less but get the same pay as you.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:33 pm
 


I've never been unionized in my life.
None of the places I've worked needed a union (in my opinion).


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:30 pm
 


Some places don't need unions and operate very well. I think very large employers like manufacturing and hospitals do need them. Keeps them accountable and everyone is treated fair and equitable. Even with unions some management tend to try and go against the contract.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:47 pm
 


kenmore kenmore:
Some places don't need unions and operate very well. I think very large employers like manufacturing and hospitals do need them. Keeps them accountable and everyone is treated fair and equitable. Even with unions some management tend to try and go against the contract.

That's very untrue. The only fair treatment you get is that you are paid what everyone else at your level is paid. I've worked at places with unions, where if you were a young good looking girl you could sit on your ass and chat the day away, while everyone else around you did their job. I was disliked by a few people at work because I told them plane and simple, this is how much work I'm going to do and you can either help or not but your area wont' get done.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:52 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
kenmore kenmore:
A contract is between the employer and the union (workers) contracts usally contain perks to help with hiring and retention of good employees. Some, I agree can be a bit out there.


Does little to keep good employees, as the good employees get pissed off that the union keeps the useless people around who do less but get the same pay as you.

Hell Yeah!!!! [B-o]


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:40 am
 


Everyone hacks on the auto workers getting paid too much...

I think there are many here that would absolutely shit their pants if they knew the pay and benefits their federal, provincial and municipal workers were getting.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:26 am
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
kenmore kenmore:
A contract is between the employer and the union (workers) contracts usally contain perks to help with hiring and retention of good employees. Some, I agree can be a bit out there.


Does little to keep good employees, as the good employees get pissed off that the union keeps the useless people around who do less but get the same pay as you.



That used to really piss me off too! I worked hard for ten years to achieve my 'Masters Ticket' in my trade, buying all the equipment, constantly keeping up with the changes in the industry attending trade seminars at my own expense etc., yet was seeing that goofs who only had even less than 1 year experience, and dick-all for equipment, were hiring themselves out to be 'installers', and were doing incredibally sub-standard work, and being paid the same rate I was paid, or often will do the job for less money than a qualified tradesman, which artificially keeps the rates low. I turned that situation to my advantage. I no longer do the 'run of the mill' jobs, and when I do price out a job I make it well worth my while. Quite often I hear " I've been told that your work is exceptional, but your quote is just way too high. Sorry". This is actually a statement that I like to hear!
The 'cheaper guy' does the job and of course usually fucks it up. That's when I get called again to 'make things right'! "You wanted 'cheap' you got 'cheap'! Then I hit 'em where it hurts! Who's sorry now??? I can earn more in 1/2 day fixing fuck-ups done by 'wanna be's' than I could earn working 12-14 hr days.
I also get hired and paid very well to just supervise jobs, and make sure that standards are being met or exceeded. And I have high standards!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:58 pm
 


The Unions have been non-militant since the 1990-91 recession. They have accepted average wage increases. They are doing well and have become partners in a steady economy. In the 1970s and 1980s there were all these strikes and large wage settlements that sometimes were inflationary. So, not to worry.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:08 pm
 


Bruce_the_vii Bruce_the_vii:
The Unions have been non-militant since the 1990-91 recession. They have accepted average wage increases. They are doing well and have become partners in a steady economy. In the 1970s and 1980s there were all these strikes and large wage settlements that sometimes were inflationary. So, not to worry.


You do not live in Quebec ... :lol:


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