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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:17 pm
 


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man, listening to some forums, and some FB comments, no wonder the Liberals got turfed. The losers are all bitching about how the people who voted for a conservative majority are stupid and not aware of the real issues. What a contemptuous and contemptible lot. Like most self declared 'progressives' they are paternalistic and undemocratic.


Yeah, it could be worse - they could have been conservatives visiting Conservative-run social media sites where commenting was disabled...after all, you can't let the little people dissent or talk about anything other than the party line!


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:26 pm
 


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What someone earns is irrespective of what profits their company does or does not make. Were Timmies to be going bankrupt they'd still have to pay their workers whatever their correct wage is.

You want workers to share in the profits and I'll go for that so long as they also share in the losses and risks.


That very system works very well for lots of companies - Southwest and WestJet are two that come to mind right away.

They offered stock options to their employees and as such get dividends when the company does well, and nothing when it does poorly. As such, many employees with those companies work as though it is their own business and work hard to achieve efficiencies their competitors can only dream about.

I don't know about Southwest, but many of WestJet's original employees are all millionaires now - because they worked hard for a company they felt was in part theirs.

I have no idea why other major companies have yet to adopt such a successful business model.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:40 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Learn to speak English well enough to communicate in a broader array of Canadian workplaces.


That makes a pretty broad assumption.

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Go to school and enhance your qualifications so that you are a viable prospect to compete for a better paying job and therefore ensuring you have a more fiscally secure retirement.


What if you can't afford that education? Do you realize how much education costs these days and how little you can manage to get out of student loans given some social backgrounds? Case in point I have a very good friend who was trying to do just what you suggest. She's been living on minimum or near minimum wage jobs since she got out of high school. Her parents never made enough to be able to help her get higher education so when she got into a course she tried to secure a student loan. Since she never made enough to develop much credit history most places refused her outright and the rest would hardly give her enough to pay her tuition much less pay for a place to life and or food. That basically has left higher education completely out of reach for her.

Just saying to someone they needs to better themselves to archive isn't enough. Some need a leg up to get over that basic hurdle to start with.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:42 pm
 


If all the low wage workers go to school and go for better jobs, are there enough jobs for them available? Who will do the low paid jobs they all leave?


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Another topic taken off topic by andyt.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:50 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Another topic taken off topic by andyt.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:55 pm
 


Maybe it's time to re vamp the entire system and follow the American model where the winning party and Prime Minister is allowed only two four year terms.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:46 pm
 


BRAH BRAH:
Maybe it's time to re vamp the entire system and follow the American model where the winning party and Prime Minister is allowed only two four year terms.


I don't see that as being necessary. Ya I agree that when you're up to 3 terms things are getting a bit long in the tooth but normally there are good reasons as to why you would win a 3rd term in the first place. Either your party is doing really well or the opposition is doing very poorly. Most of that success would be related to the party leader so why place limits on leadership. If anything, forcing a party that is doing well after the second term to change it's leadership could potentially throw a wrench into things and cause more problems than what it solves.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:18 pm
 


dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:
BRAH BRAH:
Maybe it's time to re vamp the entire system and follow the American model where the winning party and Prime Minister is allowed only two four year terms.


I don't see that as being necessary. Ya I agree that when you're up to 3 terms things are getting a bit long in the tooth but normally there are good reasons as to why you would win a 3rd term in the first place. Either your party is doing really well or the opposition is doing very poorly. Most of that success would be related to the party leader so why place limits on leadership. If anything, forcing a party that is doing well after the second term to change it's leadership could potentially throw a wrench into things and cause more problems than what it solves.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:21 pm
 


Personally I like to say, "If it ain't broke, smash it!"

Take that as you will.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:05 pm
 


Kind of off-topic, but someone said this today:

"Who has more seats then the Liberals? ...The area around Phil Kessell when he was picked last in the All-Star Draft."

Funny, but ouch. 8O Then I realized all the similarities between the two.
- The leafs still can't seem to make the play-offs even after changing leaders. / The Liberals still can't seem to form a government even after changing leaders.
- Despised by everyone else who doesn't fully support them.
- Both need to rebuild
- Once one of the greatest, now part of the bottom feeders..

And there's probably more, but it sucks that I'm both a Liberal and a Leaf fan. :(


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:10 pm
 


Speaking of liberals, is Kenmore still alive? Both the Bloc and the Libs were decimated, that's gotta sting.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:12 pm
 


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ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
man, listening to some forums, and some FB comments, no wonder the Liberals got turfed. The losers are all bitching about how the people who voted for a conservative majority are stupid and not aware of the real issues. What a contemptuous and contemptible lot. Like most self declared 'progressives' they are paternalistic and undemocratic.


Yeah, it could be worse - they could have been conservatives visiting Conservative-run social media sites where commenting was disabled...after all, you can't let the little people dissent or talk about anything other than the party line!

I think you missed the point. There's a bunch of sore losers out there being whiney bitches.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:13 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Speaking of liberals, is Kenmore still alive? Both the Bloc and the Libs were decimated, that's gotta sting.

I told you... he couldn't stand living in a Harper majority so he preferred moving to Pakistan.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:36 pm
 


Dragon-Dancer Dragon-Dancer:
EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Learn to speak English well enough to communicate in a broader array of Canadian workplaces.


That makes a pretty broad assumption.

EyeBrock EyeBrock:
Go to school and enhance your qualifications so that you are a viable prospect to compete for a better paying job and therefore ensuring you have a more fiscally secure retirement.


What if you can't afford that education? Do you realize how much education costs these days and how little you can manage to get out of student loans given some social backgrounds? Case in point I have a very good friend who was trying to do just what you suggest. She's been living on minimum or near minimum wage jobs since she got out of high school. Her parents never made enough to be able to help her get higher education so when she got into a course she tried to secure a student loan. Since she never made enough to develop much credit history most places refused her outright and the rest would hardly give her enough to pay her tuition much less pay for a place to life and or food. That basically has left higher education completely out of reach for her.

Just saying to someone they needs to better themselves to archive isn't enough. Some need a leg up to get over that basic hurdle to start with.


Find a trade, join the military, work the oil rigs and save every penny.

Go to school


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