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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:09 am
What do you know? The UK isn't suicidal after all. Now just wait for the Obama Administration to condemn this policy. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2876/ ... ulturalism$1: The British government has unveiled a new "integration strategy" designed to "champion a united British identity." The new policy will require immigrants seeking admission to live in the United Kingdom to learn English and adhere to "mainstream" British culture and values such as democracy and the rule of law. The measures represent a continuation of recent efforts by the government to reverse decades of state-sponsored multicultural policies that have allowed Muslim immigrants to avoid integration and establish a parallel society in Britain. The new strategy document titled "Creating the Conditions for Integration" was published on February 21 and states: "We will robustly challenge behaviors and views which run counter to our shared values such as democracy, rule of law, equality of opportunity and treatment, freedom of speech and the rights of all men and women to live free from persecution of any kind. We will marginalize and challenge extremists who seek to undermine our society and we will neither engage with nor fund such organizations." The document continues: "The long-term presence of a highly diverse population is generally an indicator of good integration and a strong sense that different people get on well. But this can be undermined and even reversed by a range of factors, for example if groups within the local community work and socialize separately." Among a series of other measures, the government says it will reform laws on immigration and settlement by increasing the requirements on those who want to settle in Britain. Those coming to the United Kingdom to work, study or marry will be required to demonstrate an ability to speak English, and those wishing to remain permanently or seek British citizenship will be required to demonstrate their knowledge of language and life within the United Kingdom. The new strategy also promotes the teaching of British history and culture in schools and encourages the flying of flags in public places. In addition, the government says it will work to restore the Christian faith to the center of public life in Britain. Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government Eric Pickles, who is responsible for implementing the strategy, says the new measures represent a frontal attack on the multicultural policies introduced by the previous Labour government. Those policies included the watering down of the teaching of British history and policies which promoted "aggressive secularism." Speaking to the London-based Daily Mail newspaper, Pickles said: "Under [Equality Minister] Harriet Harman's agenda, the Labour Government encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream. Political correctness replaced common sense. People were left afraid to express legitimate concerns and frustrations. We need a new approach. One that emphasizes what we have in common rather than difference." Pickles continued: "It's sad to see how, in recent years, the idea of tolerance has become twisted. A few people, a handful of activists, have insisted that it isn't enough simply to celebrate the beliefs of minority communities; they want to disown the traditions and heritage of the majority, including the Christian faith and the English language." The new integration strategy comes after British Prime British Prime Minister David Cameron publicly repudiated his country's long-standing policy of multiculturalism, declaring it to be a failure and responsible for fostering Islamist extremism. In a speech to the Munich Security Conference in February 2011, Cameron said: "Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and apart from the mainstream. We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong. We have even tolerated these segregated communities behaving in ways that run completely counter to our values." Cameron continued: "This hands-off tolerance has only served to reinforce the sense that not enough is shared. And this all leaves some young Muslims feeling rootless. And the search for something to belong to and something to believe in can lead them to this extremist ideology. What we see -- and what we see in so many European countries -- is a process of radicalization." Cameron said a two-pronged approach would be needed to neuter the threat of radical Islam in Europe: confronting extremist ideology and, instead of encouraging people to live apart, promoting a clear sense of shared national identity that is open to everyone. On this second challenge of fostering a shared national identity, Cameron said: "Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and a much more active, muscular liberalism. A passively tolerant society says to its citizens as long as you obey the law we will just leave you alone. It stands neutral between different values. But I believe a genuinely liberal country does much more; it believes in certain values and actively promotes them. Freedom of speech, freedom of worship, democracy, the rule of law, equal rights regardless of race, sex or sexuality. It says to its citizens, this is what defines us as a society: to belong here is to believe in these things." In a follow-up to that speech, Cameron in October 2011 announced a series of wide-ranging reforms aimed at cracking down on illegal immigration and visa fraud in order to "reclaim our borders and send illegal immigrants home." Cameron said that in the future, immigrants applying for visas to live in Britain must show that they can speak English, and must also prove they have the financial resources to support themselves while in the country. In some of his strongest rhetoric yet on the spiraling problem of illegal immigration, particularly from Muslim countries, Cameron also urged Britons to report suspected illegal immigrants to the authorities so they can be deported. Cameron further said that in the future, all immigrants applying for a British passport would be required to pass a British history exam first. Migrants wanting to settle in Britain permanently have been required to take a Citizenship Test since 2005. But that test, a multiple-choice quiz called Life in the UK, was reduced to a laughing stock when the previous Labour government ruled that immigrants should not be required to learn British history because there was too much of it and "it would not be fair." Instead, applicants were asked questions about equal rights, discrimination and on how to claim social welfare benefits from the British state. Cameron said: "We're also going to change the citizenship test. There is a whole chapter in the citizenship handbook on British history but, incredibly, there is no question on British history in the actual test. Instead you'll find questions on the roles and powers of the main institutions of Europe and the benefits system within the UK. So we are going to revise the whole test … and put British history and culture at the heart of it." Despite its efforts to reverse multiculturalism, the British government faces an uphill battle to achieve an integrated society. One day after the government announced its new integration strategy, the Office for National Statistics revealed that two-thirds of the babies born in London in 2010 had at least one foreign-born parent. In some inner-city areas, more than three-quarters of infants are now being born into immigrant families. The figure is below 50% in only six of the 32 London boroughs.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:39 am
Hoping it's not already too late for them.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:49 am
It's well too late, say 40 years too late.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:23 pm
Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:27 pm
jeff744 jeff744: Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting. Then you admit that Islamic immigration into Europe has a subrosa purpose that is both aggressive and hostile to Europeans and European culture and that the Cameron government is spot-on with this programme. Thank you for playing. 
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:34 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:05 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: jeff744 jeff744: Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting. Then you admit that Islamic immigration into Europe has a subrosa purpose that is both aggressive and hostile to Europeans and European culture and that the Cameron government is spot-on with this programme. Thank you for playing.  Not even close. Britain forced their culture on a vast portion of the world, many immigrants are moving into Britain, the extremist Muslims just happen to be the loudest of them. Instead of weeding out the extremists Britain is whitewashing the entire system in an attempt to erase all of the side effects of having created a global empire. Their entire policy is hypocritical $1: The new strategy document titled "Creating the Conditions for Integration" was published on February 21 and states: "We will robustly challenge behaviors and views which run counter to our shared values such as democracy, rule of law, equality of opportunity and treatment, freedom of speech and the rights of all men and women to live free from persecution of any kind. We will marginalize and challenge extremists who seek to undermine our society and we will neither engage with nor fund such organizations." The policy in itself is persecuting the immigrants for not becoming good white people because they happen to retain some of their own culture. They love to talk about freedom of speech and will let neo-Nazis have their protests but when the Muslims extremists decide to use it suddenly there are restrictions. Apparently freedoms only apply to you after you become a good little white British citizen.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:28 pm
jeff744 jeff744: $1: The new strategy document titled "Creating the Conditions for Integration" was published on February 21 and states: "We will robustly challenge behaviors and views which run counter to our shared values such as democracy, rule of law, equality of opportunity and treatment, freedom of speech and the rights of all men and women to live free from persecution of any kind. We will marginalize and challenge extremists who seek to undermine our society and we will neither engage with nor fund such organizations." The policy in itself is persecuting the immigrants for not becoming good white people because they happen to retain some of their own culture. They love to talk about freedom of speech and will let neo-Nazis have their protests but when the Muslims extremists decide to use it suddenly there are restrictions. Apparently freedoms only apply to you after you become a good little white British citizen. You are so wrong, you truly have no idea.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:45 pm
jeff744 jeff744: Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting. Colonial powers, as you call them, often improved the lot of the common person. White , black, brown, has nothing to do with it. It's culture that's important. Preserving the British culture is important. Your misguided take on British interests is disgusting.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:13 pm
PluggyRug PluggyRug: jeff744 jeff744: Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting. Colonial powers, as you call them, often improved the lot of the common person. White , black, brown, has nothing to do with it. It's culture that's important. Preserving the British culture is important. Your misguided take on British interests is disgusting. "Improved" Like how they improve Vietnam? How about when they accidentally wiped out 90% of the Americas? Their later oppression of the natives? How about Africa? Yeah, the colonial powers did a fantastic job of "improving" the world. In the process they obliterated local cultures and went full force in their attempts to make them European. They opened their borders to mass movements of immigrants in the process of colonizing the world, if they wanted a British culture they should have kept to themselves. British culture has been exposed to immigrants for hundreds of years, this is just whitewashing because now their ever so precious pure-British culture is at risk of changing. They are splitting the system into British and non-British and making it so the non-British are not welcome. Good luck reversing hundreds of years of history when your own youth are battling record levels of sex, pregnancy, drug use, and fighting. Going to be hilarious to see how this British culture things works out when the British youth can't even get into it.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:27 pm
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:31 pm
jeff744 jeff744: Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting. Oh give me a break. Do you think the average guy in the street in the UK was complicit in the invasion of the tribal regions of Pakistan 200 years ago? Do you think it's wrong of the Brits to balk at immigrants burning poppies on Rememberance Day or they should turn the other cheek when anti-Brits kill dozens of people on buses? What a nasty chap you are Jeff.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:43 pm
EyeBrock EyeBrock: jeff744 jeff744: Colonial powers were happy to force their own culture on others but they are awfully frightened when a culture decides to fight back. Disgusting. Oh give me a break. Do you think the average guy in the street in the UK was complicit in the invasion of the tribal regions of Pakistan 200 years ago? Do you think it's wrong of the Brits to balk at immigrants burning poppies on Rememberance Day or they should turn the other cheek when anti-Brits kill dozens of people on buses? What a nasty chap you are Jeff. Doesn't matter that they didn't help with bringing them in, their ancestors did and the simple fact is that they have just as much a right to live there as the rest do. Extremists exists on all parts of society, what about the neo-nazis that go holding rallies that demand the death/expulsion of all impure people? Extremism is bad, and you should deal with the extremists, but what Britain is doing is like a scorched earth policy, they are trying to obliterate the moderates too and just leave British.
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FieryVulpine 
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:51 pm
Considering how we are starting to see Muslim enclaves in Britain that encourage misogyny and homophobia. This self-imposed segregation makes one question if multiculturalism is working as planned.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:54 pm
I like it. I only we could institute a Canadian version of that here.
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