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[Mowich]

I hope you have a huge turn-out for the rally, Alta and the petition and I mean that sincerely.

[Alta_redneck]

Mowich Mowich:

I hope you have a huge turn-out for the rally, Alta and the petition and I mean that sincerely.

Thanks Mo, the fire still burns hot but i think people are tired of packing water to it. But here's another reason we need to go.

The NDP are borrowing $Billion of dollars to operate the Province and to build infrastructure and get people working again. One of the Mega Projects, one of which is a series of interchanges at Red Deer, a $100M+ multi year. Two of the provinces biggest road construction companies operate out of Red Deer, these 2 companies have worked together on a number of projects over the years. This project was no different and they submitted a combined tender, together they have about a 600 person work force.

What does the NDP do, they give the contract to an American company

Flatiron Construction Corp. Corporate headquarters Broomfield, Colorado
And then this company subs out the paving to a company from Saskatchewan.

This really is a WTF moment.

Highway 2 Gaetz Avenue Interchange Improvement Project
What's New

Flatiron Construction Corp., on behalf of Alberta Transportation, has started construction on the Highway 2 / Gaetz Avenue Interchange. Access from southbound Gaetz Avenue to Highway 2 will be closed September 30, 2016, and will remain closed until the interchange is completed in 2018. The closure requires traffic to be diverted to the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange via 19 Street in order to access Highway 2 southbound. Temporary traffic signals will be installed at the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange ramp to provide access to Highway 2 southbound. This closure is necessary to construct the new Gaetz Avenue bridge and new Highway 2 alignment.
During the month of October, traffic on Taylor Drive, under the existing Highway 2 bridges, will be reduced to one lane in each direction during off-peak times to allow Flatiron Construction Corp. access to the median. Two lanes will be maintained in each direction during peak times. Minor delays are expected.

For more information, please email us at [email protected].
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/5969.htm

[bootlegga]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

Mowich Mowich:

I hope you have a huge turn-out for the rally, Alta and the petition and I mean that sincerely.

Thanks Mo, the fire still burns hot but i think people are tired of packing water to it. But here's another reason we need to go.

The NDP are borrowing $Billion of dollars to operate the Province and to build infrastructure and get people working again. One of the Mega Projects, one of which is a series of interchanges at Red Deer, a $100M+ multi year. Two of the provinces biggest road construction companies operate out of Red Deer, these 2 companies have worked together on a number of projects over the years. This project was no different and they submitted a combined tender, together they have about a 600 person work force.

What does the NDP do, they give the contract to an American company

Flatiron Construction Corp. Corporate headquarters Broomfield, Colorado
And then this company subs out the paving to a company from Saskatchewan.

This really is a WTF moment.

Highway 2 Gaetz Avenue Interchange Improvement Project
What's New

Flatiron Construction Corp., on behalf of Alberta Transportation, has started construction on the Highway 2 / Gaetz Avenue Interchange. Access from southbound Gaetz Avenue to Highway 2 will be closed September 30, 2016, and will remain closed until the interchange is completed in 2018. The closure requires traffic to be diverted to the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange via 19 Street in order to access Highway 2 southbound. Temporary traffic signals will be installed at the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange ramp to provide access to Highway 2 southbound. This closure is necessary to construct the new Gaetz Avenue bridge and new Highway 2 alignment.
During the month of October, traffic on Taylor Drive, under the existing Highway 2 bridges, will be reduced to one lane in each direction during off-peak times to allow Flatiron Construction Corp. access to the median. Two lanes will be maintained in each direction during peak times. Minor delays are expected.

For more information, please email us at [email protected].
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/5969.htm

Actually, the WTF moment is the one where people don't understand the tendering process and RFPs.

Based on the fact that their combined bid did not win the bidding process, I would argue they hadn't submitted a competitive bid. If they had, they would have won it.

FYI, Flatiron was part of the consortium that just completed the last leg of the Henday on time AND on budget...for which the consortium hired about 2000 Albertans for four years.

But don't let facts get in the way of your partisan rant.

[Jabberwalker]

Mowich Mowich:

I hope you have a huge turn-out for the rally, Alta and the petition and I mean that sincerely.

Yes. Fight this latest sales tax. It is specifically aimed at what you produce for a living in Alberta.

[Canadian_Mind]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

Mowich Mowich:

I hope you have a huge turn-out for the rally, Alta and the petition and I mean that sincerely.

Thanks Mo, the fire still burns hot but i think people are tired of packing water to it. But here's another reason we need to go.

The NDP are borrowing $Billion of dollars to operate the Province and to build infrastructure and get people working again. One of the Mega Projects, one of which is a series of interchanges at Red Deer, a $100M+ multi year. Two of the provinces biggest road construction companies operate out of Red Deer, these 2 companies have worked together on a number of projects over the years. This project was no different and they submitted a combined tender, together they have about a 600 person work force.

What does the NDP do, they give the contract to an American company

Flatiron Construction Corp. Corporate headquarters Broomfield, Colorado
And then this company subs out the paving to a company from Saskatchewan.

This really is a WTF moment.

Highway 2 Gaetz Avenue Interchange Improvement Project
What's New

Flatiron Construction Corp., on behalf of Alberta Transportation, has started construction on the Highway 2 / Gaetz Avenue Interchange. Access from southbound Gaetz Avenue to Highway 2 will be closed September 30, 2016, and will remain closed until the interchange is completed in 2018. The closure requires traffic to be diverted to the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange via 19 Street in order to access Highway 2 southbound. Temporary traffic signals will be installed at the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange ramp to provide access to Highway 2 southbound. This closure is necessary to construct the new Gaetz Avenue bridge and new Highway 2 alignment.
During the month of October, traffic on Taylor Drive, under the existing Highway 2 bridges, will be reduced to one lane in each direction during off-peak times to allow Flatiron Construction Corp. access to the median. Two lanes will be maintained in each direction during peak times. Minor delays are expected.

For more information, please email us at [email protected].
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/5969.htm

Actually, the WTF moment is the one where people don't understand the tendering process and RFPs.

Based on the fact that their combined bid did not win the bidding process, I would argue they hadn't submitted a competitive bid. If they had, they would have won it.

FYI, Flatiron was part of the consortium that just completed the last leg of the Henday on time AND on budget...for which the consortium hired about 2000 Albertans for four years.

But don't let facts get in the way of your partisan rant.

I have an idea about why this concerns people. Regardless of whether a Canadian company or an American company hire 500 Canadian workers for this project, there is still 50-100 white collar jobs that will either be Canadian or American, depending which company you choose. Plus of course people assume if it is an American company it is owned by American stockholders.

So the first concern is, why should we be borrowing money to spend on a project when a significant portion of that money is going to go towards paying foreign white collar employees?

Second concern could revolve around wages. If the Canadian consortium's average wage for blue collar workers on the project comes out to $30 per hour, and FlatIron's average will work out to only $25, the end result is that less money goes back into the government coffers via taxes, and the workers, who were likely laid off from the $30 an hour company, are now trying to get by on $25 per hour. Not exactly a winning recipe for economic growth.

Both concerns ultimately revolve around the fact that there is less money going towards Canadian workers, that there will be less Canadian workers being paid in general, and the Alberta government gets less tax revenue to help cover the costs of projects like this.

[herbie]

Rallying against a carbon tax will make you feel better.
Almost as good as honking horns in support of BC LNG or clicking like buttons did.
Why not rally against winter while you're at it?

[Alta_redneck]

herbie herbie:

Rallying against a carbon tax will make you feel better.
Almost as good as honking horns in support of BC LNG or clicking like buttons did.
Why not rally against winter while you're at it?

Well, we will never be known to just bend over and take it dry like you people do.

[herbie]

Well rail against the inevitable. But here's one you'll like:

[Thanos]

"No extremist groups"? Where's the fun in that?

[Mowich]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

Mowich Mowich:

I hope you have a huge turn-out for the rally, Alta and the petition and I mean that sincerely.

Thanks Mo, the fire still burns hot but i think people are tired of packing water to it. But here's another reason we need to go.

The NDP are borrowing $Billion of dollars to operate the Province and to build infrastructure and get people working again. One of the Mega Projects, one of which is a series of interchanges at Red Deer, a $100M+ multi year. Two of the provinces biggest road construction companies operate out of Red Deer, these 2 companies have worked together on a number of projects over the years. This project was no different and they submitted a combined tender, together they have about a 600 person work force.

What does the NDP do, they give the contract to an American company

Flatiron Construction Corp. Corporate headquarters Broomfield, Colorado
And then this company subs out the paving to a company from Saskatchewan.

This really is a WTF moment.

Highway 2 Gaetz Avenue Interchange Improvement Project
What's New

Flatiron Construction Corp., on behalf of Alberta Transportation, has started construction on the Highway 2 / Gaetz Avenue Interchange. Access from southbound Gaetz Avenue to Highway 2 will be closed September 30, 2016, and will remain closed until the interchange is completed in 2018. The closure requires traffic to be diverted to the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange via 19 Street in order to access Highway 2 southbound. Temporary traffic signals will be installed at the Highway 2A (Taylor Drive) interchange ramp to provide access to Highway 2 southbound. This closure is necessary to construct the new Gaetz Avenue bridge and new Highway 2 alignment.
During the month of October, traffic on Taylor Drive, under the existing Highway 2 bridges, will be reduced to one lane in each direction during off-peak times to allow Flatiron Construction Corp. access to the median. Two lanes will be maintained in each direction during peak times. Minor delays are expected.

For more information, please email us at [email protected].
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/5969.htm

I think Notley has been spending too much time with Wynnebag and Crispy.......those two could lead anyone astray. Still, it almost seems as if she is trying to guarantee her party will get slaughtered in the next election when she hires an American company over an Alberta company especially with the high unemployment numbers. She'd have better just lined up the folks from the Red Deer company and spit at them.

[Mowich]

herbie herbie:

Well rail against the inevitable. But here's one you'll like:

[Alta_redneck]

Hey Boot, I only worked in the business for close to 25 years, I know how the tendering process works. Did you know that it also mentions that lowest bid is not necessarily accepted. I'm sure not the exact wording but you get the idea.

Another factor is project materials, just about every gravel pit in central Alberta, are own by these local companies, haul distance becomes a deal breaker.

Giving the paving contract out of Province? Red Deer, with the head offices of 2 paving companies that have paved 1000's of kms of Alberta highways. That's why I say WTF.


They finished the Henday on time great, that gives them a 50% rating from the industry gossip I've heard, but I'll believe those facts just like I believe your facts.