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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:44 pm
 


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There's around 90,000 schools in the US. Who's going to pay for all those extra cops? Cities? States? The Federal government? Federally, The Republicans won't even raise taxes to save the economy from another recession or cut education budgets first whenever there's a deficit. Do you think they'd vote for a $6 billion bill for armed guards at every school in America?


Ammo and firearm tax.


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Stupid question here but, is there such a thing as an unarmed police officer in the US?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:12 am
 


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Stupid question here but, is there such a thing as an unarmed police officer in the US?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:05 am
 


The idea has merit. There are cadres of well trained armed security people that would be a lot less expensive from an employment cost standpoint than police officers. This is not a job for regular police anyway, as most departments are stretched thin manpower-wise as it is.

Best scenario is plain-clothes security with immediate communications to the main office personnel and plenty of signage that the facility is security protected. Deterence - prevention - reaction. . . in that order would help secure school sites.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:08 am
 


Toastmaker Toastmaker:
The idea has merit. There are cadres of well trained armed security people that would be a lot less expensive from an employment cost standpoint than police officers. This is not a job for regular police anyway, as most departments are stretched thin manpower-wise as it is.

Best scenario is plain-clothes security with immediate communications to the main office personnel and plenty of signage that the facility is security protected. Deterence - prevention - reaction. . . in that order would help secure school sites.


As said before.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:14 am
 


NRA motto should be - Mo Guns!


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:31 am
 


A panic button at the reception desk just too wishy-washy for everyone?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:34 am
 


Bill Clinton thought it was a good idea after Columbine ...

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/apr/16/news/mn-20323


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:36 am
 


What good will that do? Bunch of panicked people running around for the shooter to take shots at, or huddled in the classrooms ready for slaughter, the way they were in Sandy Hook. Gotta stop those shooters from ever going to the school in the first place. Having armed guards is a sign of failure of the society.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:46 am
 


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Having armed guards is a sign of failure of the society.


An acknowledgement of the failure rather than a sign.


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Well that's the easiest solution to gun control ever. Levy a $10,000 tax on all assault rifles and automatic weapons designed to kill people in order to pay for those extra cops. Everyone wins :)


Another, in a long list of, ill informed posts about the US from you. :roll:


We have several hunting rifles in my home. In fact Canada has more guns per capita than the US. But man killers, handguns and semi autos are all but non existent here.

I'm just advocating the gun indistry pay for the added protection they are creating the need for. I agree with the NRA, if they're against all gun control then levy a nice fat tax to pay for the additional security needed... All taxes work like that. Tobacco. Alcohol. Gas.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:19 pm
 


Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:
In fact Canada has more guns per capita than the US.


Not true...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_ ... by_country

$1:
But man killers, handguns and semi autos are all but non existent here.


Also not true.

"Semiautomatic firearms described by firearm prohibitionists as �military assault weapons� are not used by any military anywhere in the world. They use ammunition less powerful than the .30-06 and other more traditional �big game� cartridges. There is no evidence that �military style� semiautomatic guns are disproportionately used in crime: less than 1.5% of all homicides in Canada involves this type of firearm. Semiautomatic rifles patterned after state-of-the-art firearm technology are popular with over one-quarter of all responsible Canadian gun owners because they offer increased reliability and durability. No functional difference exists between semiautomatics based on sporting rifles and shotguns commercially available before 1910 and those of today.

Semiautomatics that externally resemble automatic firearms are difficult to convert to automatic. Under Canadian law such a conversion is illegal and subject to a ten year jail term.
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"While it is true that robbery is the most common violent crime involving guns, three-quarters of all robberies in Canada do not involve firearms. Canadian crime statistics show that handguns are used in 80% of all firearm robberies; the most common firearm used in violent crime."

http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/tenmyths.html


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:38 pm
 


Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:
I'm just advocating the gun indistry pay for the added protection they are creating the need for. I agree with the NRA, if they're against all gun control then levy a nice fat tax to pay for the additional security needed... All taxes work like that. Tobacco. Alcohol. Gas.


There is no real statistical evidence showing slacker gun laws lead to less shootings, in fact there is greater evidence showing the contrary.

In America: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... john-fund#

So actually if you want to tax those the evidence shows to be most responsible you should tax gun-free zones. :wink:

In any case added taxes are not necessary. Take the money already being sent to hostile regimes like the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt, Hamas in Palestine, and the taliban protecting Pakistanis then pay retired or semi-retired police or military with legal permits to guard schools (much as you hire street-crossing guards).


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Ah yes, that old BS. Is the US on the verge of a Communist revolution? Is Obama planning a system of industrialized genocide?

To think that today a gun is going to keep the government from repressing you is lunacy. If the government wants to take your rights away it'll do it by an act of Congress not with a martial law. All the desk jockeys who put on camo pants and shoot at paper targets of Obama on the weekend are deluding themselves to think that they're "protecting their freedom"


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