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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:35 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:42 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: This line of thought does create kind of an amusing question. Nobody seems to want to ask it out loud though. What the Hell. Let's do it. Who would you rather have in charge in this particular situation - Bush or Obama? oooh--you need a Hitler one! Thanos--get on it!
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:44 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: No big deal. They fired it within their own sphere of influence which doesn't need much advance notice for anyone else. It may even be a routine test that's only being noticed because of current events. If they were sabre rattling they'd do a test shot into their Pacific test range with just two hours' notice to NATO and NORAD. I say that as they've done that kind of thing before.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:49 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: bootlegga bootlegga: In fairness to Obama, the arrival has been uncontested, but here you go; http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/world ... .html?_r=0Dubya chose "Bullying and intimidation" - hardly stronger than Obama's line of crap. So he did not say "uncontested arrival" then. I think I get your point though. "B-b-but Bush", right? I said similar, not identical...
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:11 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: The ICBM is for shits and giggles, no big deal. The RT girl, well, I guess RT watchers are going to hear a lot of stories about Russians in the Crimea being beaten up, evicted from houses, killed etc. etc. Just like the Germans in the Danzig corridor were. Next week Abby will say she was wrong last week.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:25 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Back on topic: Pravda is reporting that Yanukovich has died from a heart attack. http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/04- ... ch_dies-0/Convenient for someone, I suppose. Convenient for Russia he made that request for intervention the day before he drops. This isn't suspicious at all.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:31 pm
$1: MOSCOW, March 04. /ITAR-TASS/. The State Duma has dismissed as "a newspaper war" the reports alleging that Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was dead.
“What is going on now is no other than a media war," Duma Vice-speaker Vladimir Vasilyev told journalists on Tuesday. "Reports have been circulated that Yanukovych is allegedly "dead". They have obviously overdid it now, saying such things about a living person," the vice-speaker said. http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/721939
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:11 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: $1: MOSCOW, March 04. /ITAR-TASS/. The State Duma has dismissed as "a newspaper war" the reports alleging that Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was dead.
“What is going on now is no other than a media war," Duma Vice-speaker Vladimir Vasilyev told journalists on Tuesday. "Reports have been circulated that Yanukovych is allegedly "dead". They have obviously overdid it now, saying such things about a living person," the vice-speaker said. http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/721939Hmph. Putin was going to have Yanukovich die of a heart attack and changed his mind. Maybe it'll just be classic dioxin or polonium poisoning given that those methods are old school for Putin.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:13 pm
What`d you guys use on Hugo?
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:56 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: What`d you guys use on Hugo? His Vice-President.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:15 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: What`d you guys use on Hugo? ... tea from the famous Ray-aktor Class of samovar.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:41 pm
$1: Putin mocks West but ratchets down tensions over Ukraine;
MOSCOW - Stepping back from the brink of war, Vladimir Putin talked tough but cooled tensions in the Ukraine crisis Tuesday, saying Russia has no intention "to fight the Ukrainian people" but reserves the right to use force.
Although nerves remained on edge in the Crimean Peninsula, with Russian troops firing warning shots to ward off Ukrainian soldiers, global markets jumped higher on tentative signals that the Kremlin was not seeking to escalate the conflict.
Lounging in an arm-chair before Russian tricolour flags, Putin made his first public comments since the Ukrainian president fled a week and a half ago. It was a signature Putin performance, filled with earthy language, macho swagger and sarcastic jibes, accusing the West of promoting an "unconstitutional coup" in Ukraine. At one point he compared the U.S. role to an experiment with "lab rats." But the overall message appeared to be one of de-escalation. "It seems to me (Ukraine) is gradually stabilizing," Putin said. "We have no enemies in Ukraine. Ukraine is a friendly state." Still, he tempered those comments by warning that Russia was willing to use "all means at our disposal" to protect ethnic Russians in the country.
Significantly, Russia agreed to a NATO request to hold a special meeting to discuss Ukraine on Wednesday in Brussels, opening up a possible diplomatic channel in a conflict that still holds monumental hazards and uncertainties. At the same time, the U.S. and 14 other nations formed a military observer mission to monitor the tense Crimea region, and the team was headed there in 24 hours. While the threat of military confrontation retreated somewhat, both sides ramped up economic feuding. Russia hit its nearly broke neighbour with a termination of discounts on natural gas, while the U.S. announced a $1 billion aid package in energy subsidies to Ukraine.
While he said he still considers Yanukovych to be Ukraine's legitimate president, he acknowledged that the fallen leader has no political future — and said Russia gave him shelter only to save his life. Ukraine's new government wants to put Yanukovych on trial for the deaths of over 80 people during protests last month in Kyiv. Putin had withering words for Yanukovych, with whom he has never been close. Asked if he harbours any sympathy for the fugitive president, Putin replied that he has "quite opposite feelings."
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:42 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Bush's fault.
Everything is Bush's fault.
Especially the total and abject failure of Obamacare to be the #1 miracle of the 21st century. Yep, it's Bush's fault alright.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:43 pm
saturn_656 saturn_656: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Back on topic: Pravda is reporting that Yanukovich has died from a heart attack. http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/04- ... ch_dies-0/Convenient for someone, I suppose. Convenient for Russia he made that request for intervention the day before he drops. This isn't suspicious at all. Autopsy done by a first year university bio class!
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