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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:42 pm
 


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Great. The band leaders will drive around in Escalades while they're own people starve.
It looks like they learned those tricks from whitey.
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Casino's don't work in most cases here. No one's going to drive three hours up a dirt road to go to one.
You need population nearby or at least driving by.

The lower 48 presents way more opportunity for natives, there's people and roads... not 90% SFA


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Casino's don't work in most cases here. No one's going to drive three hours up a dirt road to go to one.
You need population nearby or at least driving by.

The lower 48 presents way more opportunity for natives, there's people and roads... not 90% SFA


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:11 pm
 


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The actual racists are the people who create schemes that pander to low expectations and that help to keep the natives in poverty and powerlessness.

In the USA the worst anti-native racists we had were the white liberals at the Bureau of Indian Affairs who tried to keep the various tribes locked in poverty on their reservations. This shit lasted into the 1990's until the US Supreme Court told the BIA to fuck off.

The natives fought for and won the right to launch, operate, and profit from their own enterprises and now most of our tribes are upper middle class and in some cases upper class.

So you want to talk racism?

Here's a reservation in Alberta:

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And here's the Wintun tribe's Cache Creek Rancheria located about 50km from where I am sitting right now:

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The real racism is in giving the natives just enough to survive all while studiously obstructing any effort they might make to succeed on their own.


Oh please - stop acting like only US aboriginal groups own casinos and property - a quick Google search "Poor US indian reservation" shows lots of images very similar to the Alberta image you posted.

The Stony Nakoda west of Calgary have a huge casino not unlike the one in your image. So does the Enoch Band west of Edmonton. So do many groups across the country. The Sawridge band in north central Alberta owns a chain of hotels, other groups own oil wells and other natural resources and are wealthier than most Canadians or Americans. Some even have stakes in diamond mines in northern Canada.

The two key differences between well off and poor aboriginal groups in Canada is leadership (whether it is corrupt or effective) and if they happen to have lucked out with valuable natural resources underneath their reserve.


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Every state, province, county and municipality gets a level of stable predictable funding from another level of government. That’s how successful communities are able to make long term investments in public infrastructure and services. Funny I don’t hear any of you usual suspects complaining about that. You’re only outraged when non-whites are involved it seems.


And their books are wide open to any citizen or media type interested in examining them, including the salaries of the mayor and city councilors, their office budgets, and ancillary expenses. Those governments also all have laws on the books to ban nepotism and conflict of interest.

None of this exists for most native governments.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:20 am
 


The real racists are triggered snowflakes who play the race card because in their bubble World holding First Nations accountable for how they spend Taxpayers money is racist.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:34 am
 


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The two key differences between well off and poor aboriginal groups in Canada is leadership (whether it is corrupt or effective) and if they happen to have lucked out with valuable natural resources underneath their reserve.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:34 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Every state, province, county and municipality gets a level of stable predictable funding from another level of government. That’s how successful communities are able to make long term investments in public infrastructure and services. Funny I don’t hear any of you usual suspects complaining about that. You’re only outraged when non-whites are involved it seems.


Do you REALLY think that government is the source of wealth in any country? If so then why isn't North Korea the wealthiest nation per capita in the world? Their government controls everything.

The worst fucking thing that ever happened to the natives was for the fucking government to come along and "HELP" them. More government programs and more government spending are not going to fix a problem that government created and that government has a vested interest in continuing.

See, when the natives no longer need the government then a bunch of special interests such as government workers, politicians, and government contractors all lose a nice big cash cow that they get to rape for money. Let these people have the freedom to prosper and they will do so. Get out of their way. Allow them the freedom to fail so they can learn how to succeed. :idea:

And getting back to the government source of funding it doesn't come from upper levels of government it comes from people like you and me paying taxes to support the kind of parasites who predate on poor people and do everything they can to increase poverty because it increases their salaries and their agency budgets.

No government in human history has ever done one fucking thing to actually create wealth. They tax wealth and then they spend it.

People create wealth.

Maybe not you, but other people do.


By that reasoning, Congo, or Somalia would be rich nations as they have virtually no government in much of their territory.

The worst thing that happened to natives was that about 90% of them were wiped out by European colonization. They did not need the white man's government before 1492.

But yes, I agree, the government should get out of the way. The Supreme Court has ruled on this, the indigenous peoples have rights and have title to land, and the government should give it back, for the nations to fail or succeed. But I do agree the government should give them the title to land that the Supreme Court says they have and then get out of the way.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:36 pm
 


BRAH BRAH:
The real racists are triggered snowflakes who play the race card because in their bubble World holding First Nations accountable for how they spend Taxpayers money is racist.



I don't think you and Martin know what the word racist means. You should look it up.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:41 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
BRAH BRAH:
The real racists are triggered snowflakes who play the race card because in their bubble World holding First Nations accountable for how they spend Taxpayers money is racist.



I don't think you and Martin know what the word racist means. You should look it up.

Your race baiting is weak, try again sport.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:43 pm
 


BRAH BRAH:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
BRAH BRAH:
The real racists are triggered snowflakes who play the race card because in their bubble World holding First Nations accountable for how they spend Taxpayers money is racist.



I don't think you and Martin know what the word racist means. You should look it up.

Your race baiting is weak, try again sport.


I don't think you know what race baiting means either.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:52 pm
 


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I don't think you and Martin know what the word racist means. You should look it up.

Don't even need a dictionary. It's the guy in the mirror when they're shaving.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:41 pm
 


We expect every level of Gov't to give an account of how they spend our tax dollars so, I think it's a fair expectation that the money given to the Natives in grants should be properly accounted for and if some people consider fiscal accountability for First Nations racism then they'd better give their heads a shake because by their standards every Canadian who is concerned about how their money is being spent could be labelled as a racist.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:55 pm
 


herbie herbie:
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I don't think you and Martin know what the word racist means. You should look it up.

Don't even need a dictionary. It's the guy in the mirror when they're shaving.


Is that why you grow a beard.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:17 am
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
herbie herbie:
$1:
I don't think you and Martin know what the word racist means. You should look it up.

Don't even need a dictionary. It's the guy in the mirror when they're shaving.


Is that why you grow a beard.



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