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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:42 am
 


Meh. $20T, and none of us would see a cent. It would all go to the Bronfmans or Irvings for their inconvenience.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:44 am
 


He created a diplomatic incident by letting this absurd and offensive idea become public and then, instead of apologizing, doubled down by cancelling his state visit to Denmark. How does anybody support him?


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Well, 10T divided by 38mil is only 250k. Pittance.


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Well, 10T divided by 38mil is only 250k. Pittance.


Scary as it sounds, that was the premise of this book on why Canada and the US should merge:

Merger Of The Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

https://www.amazon.ca/Merger-Century-Ca ... B00ENH6ZIC


IIRC, the author posited that each Canadian should be given about $500,000 as compensation for losing the healthcare and social safety net we have now and replacing it with the American model.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:39 am
 


How about they keep their 500k and I keep my Canadian way of life.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:50 am
 


R=UP :rock:
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How about they keep their 500k and I keep my Canadian way of life.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:12 pm
 


From the Globe and Mail...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/a ... errifying/

Trump’s Greenland temper tantrum isn’t funny – it’s terrifying
JOHN IBBITSON
PUBLISHED 1 HOUR AGO
UPDATED AUGUST 21, 2019
9 COMMENTS



“But … but … but … !”

We can only guess how many people sputtered in confusion and anger Tuesday night after U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted he was cancelling his state visit to Denmark because its government refused to discuss the sale of Greenland.

Is this simply the latest example of this President’s fondness for maximizing chaos in order to keep all attention focused on him? Or is something darker and more dangerous happening within the West Wing?

In a way, it doesn’t matter. What matters is that, at a time of growing international tension – much of which has been created by the President’s own policies, Mr. Trump chose to offend an important ally by making a ludicrous request of Denmark and of Greenland, and then throwing a temper tantrum when they said no.

Never mind the reason behind Mr. Trump’s actions. Just look at his actions. They are terrifying.

That tweet – “Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time…" – ratcheted up a controversy that no one had even heard about before last Thursday, when The Wall Street Journal reported that Mr. Trump had been talking with aides about purchasing Greenland, an autonomous territory within the Kingdom of Denmark.

“I don’t want to predict an outcome,” White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told Fox News on Sunday. “I’m just saying the President, who knows a thing or two about buying real estate, wants to take a look at a Greenland purchase.”

Ms. Frederiksen dismissed the request as “absurd.”

“Greenland is not Danish. Greenland is Greenlandic," she said. "I persistently hope that this is not something that is seriously meant.”

Mr. Trump seemed to confirm that he considered the whole idea a prank when he tweeted out a picture of a gold-plated Trump building Photoshopped onto a picture of a Greenlandic village with the statement: “I promise not to do this to Greenland!”

But then came the tweet that he was cancelling his long-planned state visit, which made the story very real.

Wednesday afternoon, the President told reporters that it was the tone of Ms. Frederiksen’s remarks, which he called “nasty” and “inappropriate,” that made him cancel the trip.

“She’s not talking to me, she’s talking to the United States of America. You don’t talk to the United States that way,” he declared.

Mr. Trump called Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland a “nasty woman,” during the NAFTA negotiations. As others have noted, the President is particularly bothered by women who refuse to do his bidding.

Nonetheless, it’s tempting to slough all this off as just another example of the President’s pathological need for attention. With an administration that commits outrages by the hour, what matters Greenland?

It matters a lot. Forty-three Danish troops died in the Afghan War, the highest per-capita fatality rate of any NATO coalition member. The President dishonours their sacrifice, and the sacrifice of every ally who came to America’s aid in that war.

The United States’ Thule Air Base in Greenland is a vital link in the American Ballistic Missile Early Warning System. Who would blame the people of Greenland if they demanded that Denmark order the Americans to close the base?

The President’s supporters maintain American control of Greenland is necessary because China has designs on the territory, which is strategically important within the Arctic region. If so, how has this helped?

As Mr. Trump offends one ally after another after another – calling Prime Minister Justin Trudeau “weak" and “dishonest” last year because he wouldn’t cave in NAFTA trade negotiations; questioning the importance of NATO; offending the Japanese and South Koreans while cozying up to North Korea – those allies must be wondering how much of this the Western alliance can take before the damage becomes too great.

"This is offensive. This is a slap in the face,” Rufus Gifford told CNN Wednesday morning of Mr. Trump’s decision to cancel the state visit. Mr. Gifford served as U.S. ambassador to Denmark during the Obama administration. "We are going to have a lot of fixing to do once this chapter of American history is over. "

The U.S. trade war with China is increasing the risk of a global recession. Beijing threatens to retaliate against pro-democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. India has moved aggressively to strip Kashmir of its autonomy, enraging Pakistan. North Korea continues its nuclear-weapons program. Iran’s anger at the Trump administration for abandoning the nuclear-weapons treaty has ratcheted up tensions in the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. government is asking for help in patrolling the strait.

The global situation would challenge the most capable and experienced president. Mr. Trump has decided to add to the mix by offending Denmark and Greenland.

Why would any ally lift a finger to help the United States today?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:38 pm
 


llama66 llama66:
Why would any ally lift a finger to help the United States today?

I go back and forth on this, on one hand Trump is not the United States. They made a mistake in electing a buffoon, but that shouldn't mean we forsake our friends to the south.

On the other hand, should he be elected again, time to wash our hands of it. They're clearly lost if that happens.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:00 pm
 


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The Queen of Denmark invited him for a State visit. He cancelled. She's pissed.

I recall the tradition of new US Presidents making their first State visit to Canada. But Obama changed that, with his first to Mexico and Second to Canada.

I don't think Trump will have State visit to Canada, at all. And I don't hear many complaints!

Until I read your post it hadn't occurred to me that Trump has not made a state visit to Canada. I wonder why he hasn't done so?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:03 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
llama66 llama66:
Well, 10T divided by 38mil is only 250k. Pittance.


Scary as it sounds, that was the premise of this book on why Canada and the US should merge:

Merger Of The Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

https://www.amazon.ca/Merger-Century-Ca ... B00ENH6ZIC


IIRC, the author posited that each Canadian should be given about $500,000 as compensation for losing the healthcare and social safety net we have now and replacing it with the American model.

PDT_Armataz_01_32

Screw that freaking idea!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:27 pm
 


On the other hand, that Danish PM is kinda nasty. I would.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:33 pm
 


Strutz Strutz:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
The Queen of Denmark invited him for a State visit. He cancelled. She's pissed.

I recall the tradition of new US Presidents making their first State visit to Canada. But Obama changed that, with his first to Mexico and Second to Canada.

I don't think Trump will have State visit to Canada, at all. And I don't hear many complaints!

Until I read your post it hadn't occurred to me that Trump has not made a state visit to Canada. I wonder why he hasn't done so?


Because he has nothing but disdain for his allies and nothing but love for dictators.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:10 am
 


This has to be one of the weirdest international spats ever, a dispute created out of nothing by an ignorant, arrogant man.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:37 am
 


I don't consider this a dispute. This is a child throwing a temper tantrum because he was told "no"


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:47 am
 


llama66 llama66:
I don't consider this a dispute. This is a child throwing a temper tantrum because he was told "no"


. . . by a woman.


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