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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:19 pm
 


llama66 llama66:
Naw, If we talk to the Kurdistani "Government" and have them try and convict him, we'd have to abide by their "court's" ruling.


The Kurds are literally worse than the US courts in Gitmo.

And Lil Omar pled guilty, still didn't stop him from 'coming home',
collecting 10 million of your tax money,
and free walkabouts with EMT courses ........ ?

So sorry, that won't stop the libshits and other altleftists.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:30 pm
 


Not if he's sentenced to a bullet.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:13 pm
 


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Muslim convert Jihadi Jack could use a legal loophole to escape prosecution for joining ISIS if he moves to Canada because he went to Syria from Britain.

Letts, who has dual UK-Canadian nationality, was deprived of his passport by Sajid Javid on Sunday, igniting a row where Canada has accused Britain of 'off-loading' its responsibilities.

And now, John McKay, chair of Canada's committee and national security said even if they do accept Letts into the country, he will escape prosecution due to a legal loophole, as reported by The Telegraph.

He said: 'The problem is that we are between a rock and a hard place.

'Our legislation works on the assumption - and it is actually stated in legislation - that you have to leave from Canada in order to be prosecuted for a terrorist offence. We are unable to initiate any prosecution.'


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:57 pm
 


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If we can’t try these people under current laws then we need new laws to deal with them. BTW this was not the act of an ally. His ties to Britain are way stronger than they are to us.


Boris Johnson. With allies like that who needs enemies? He should not be allowed to get away with this.


It would appear that Prime Minister Boris Johnson has about as much respect for Trudeau and Canada as President for life Xi does.

But in Johnson and his predecessor's defense they at least gave us ample warning that they wanted to revoke poor little Jackie's British citizenship. So, instead of whining like a bunch of gut shot dogs our gov't should man up and admit that they never intended to take away his Canadian citizenship no matter what Britain did because, if they had they'd have done it long ago.


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The Trudeau government used powers granted by the Harper government's controversial citizenship law to make 184 revocation decisions without legal hearings between November 2015 and the end of August. About 90 per cent of the decisions resulted in a negative finding and the loss of a person's citizenship.

The numbers show that the Trudeau government has used the law far more aggressively than the Harper government itself.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/citize ... -1.3795733

So, it's not like the Liberals haven't revoked Canadian citizenship in the past which is what makes their reluctance to do so in this case so fucking irritating.


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So, it's not like the Liberals haven't revoked Canadian citizenship in the past which is what makes their reluctance to do so in this case so fucking irritating.

For once we agree. I see no reason why we didn't revoke his citizenship.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:28 pm
 


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

So, it's not like the Liberals haven't revoked Canadian citizenship in the past which is what makes their reluctance to do so in this case so fucking irritating.

For once we agree. I see no reason why we didn't revoke his citizenship.


Gee, it's almost like some people in your government approve of what he did. :idea:


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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

So, it's not like the Liberals haven't revoked Canadian citizenship in the past which is what makes their reluctance to do so in this case so fucking irritating.

For once we agree. I see no reason why we didn't revoke his citizenship.


Gee, it's almost like some people in your government approve of what he did. :idea:

That's not at all what that means. But sure.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:10 pm
 


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The Brits arbitrarily removed citizenship from someone who was born there. Not from someone who fraudulently obtained it, someone who by definition was British.
And no one addresses that issue.
Because they're little fascists at heart.


Why would we? The guy made his decision. He preferred ISIS to Britain.

Time to pay the piper.

You're not addressing the issue I pointed out at all. Doesn't matter for shit what HE did. The gov't pulled a Nuremberg Law out of it's ass that would be found unconstitutional if the UK had one like a real democracy.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:07 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
'Our legislation works on the assumption - and it is actually stated in legislation - that you have to leave from Canada in order to be prosecuted for a terrorist offence. We are unable to initiate any prosecution.'




:lol:

oh fuck, well get that $10 million ready.


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herbie herbie:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
herbie herbie:
The Brits arbitrarily removed citizenship from someone who was born there. Not from someone who fraudulently obtained it, someone who by definition was British.
And no one addresses that issue.
Because they're little fascists at heart.


Why would we? The guy made his decision. He preferred ISIS to Britain.

Time to pay the piper.

You're not addressing the issue I pointed out at all. Doesn't matter for shit what HE did. The gov't pulled a Nuremberg Law out of it's ass that would be found unconstitutional if the UK had one like a real democracy.


The United Kingdom is a sovereign nation, and I have absolutely zero input on what they do and how they apply their laws. Canada also has laws that let us strip the citizenship of people with dual citizenship.

One thing old Jack may find, is that it's illegal for a Canadian citizen to fight against soldiers of a friendly country. Canadian Citizenship may not work in his favour.

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Offence to enlist with a foreign state at war with a friendly state

3 Any person who, being a Canadian national, within or outside Canada, voluntarily accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state or, whether a Canadian national or not, within Canada, induces any other person to accept or agree to accept any commission or engagement in any such armed forces is guilty of an offence.

R.S., c. F-29, s. 3

Offence to leave or intend to leave Canada to enlist

4 Any person who, being a Canadian national, leaves or goes on board any conveyance with a view to leaving Canada with intent to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state or, whether a Canadian national or not, within Canada, induces any other person to leave or go on board any conveyance with a view to leaving Canada, with a like intent, is guilty of an offence.

R.S., c. F-29, s. 4


https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/act ... lText.html


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:39 am
 


Wow sounds so really really impressive, such strong laws.

Omar.

Sure.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:41 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
One thing old Jack may find, is that it's illegal for a Canadian citizen to fight against soldiers of a friendly country. Canadian Citizenship may not work in his favour.

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Offence to enlist with a foreign state at war with a friendly state

3 Any person who, being a Canadian national, within or outside Canada, voluntarily accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state or, whether a Canadian national or not, within Canada, induces any other person to accept or agree to accept any commission or engagement in any such armed forces is guilty of an offence.

R.S., c. F-29, s. 3

Offence to leave or intend to leave Canada to enlist

4 Any person who, being a Canadian national, leaves or goes on board any conveyance with a view to leaving Canada with intent to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state or, whether a Canadian national or not, within Canada, induces any other person to leave or go on board any conveyance with a view to leaving Canada, with a like intent, is guilty of an offence.

R.S., c. F-29, s. 4


https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/act ... lText.html


The first law works kind of but the problem with that is, since we've accepted other ISIS fighters back into Canada with no ramifications for them, a precedence has been set which the courts would have to take into consideration and would likely apply to Jihadi Jack making him pretty much bullet proof.


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“We can only confirm that there are now about 60, which is the same figure as there was when we took office in late 2015. The forthcoming threat report will also use that number, barring any developments between now and its release,” said Scott Bardsley, spokesperson for Goodale, of the 2017 Public Report on the Terrorist Threat to Canada.

Both Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Goodale have said that all those who need to be under surveillance are being monitored and will be “reintegrated” but the Conservatives argue that’s the wrong approach.


https://globalnews.ca/news/3877256/numb ... h-goodale/


So what are we going to do with Jihadi Jack? Bring him back to Canada, monitor him and "reintergrate" him. That's not much of a punishment for someone who broke Canadian law by fighting against our allies. I'm also pretty sure that because he's white if the Gov't didn't turn him loose on Canada there'd be the usual cry's of racism and demands he be treated the same as our home grown Islamic fighters.


As for the second law. It's been pointed out by our current Gov't he left to join ISIS from the UK not Canada which once again makes him bullet proof according to our law.

I'm sorry but every way you look at this case we're screwed. We're going to eventually have to bring him into Canada and let him walk because we failed to do the right thing right from the start and revoke his citizenship of convenience. And as odd as one of Bart's previous comments sounds the optics certainly make it look like the Gov't dragged their feet on this case for a reason.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:50 am
 


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The United Kingdom is a sovereign nation, and I have absolutely zero input on what they do and how they apply their laws.

Neither do I, but I have the right to condemn them when they're wrong.
We're lucky the shithead wasn't born here or you'd all be chanting to remove citienship and set the country up for another $10 million settlement.
Let him sit in jail in Syria. Provide the minimum consular services possible. Ten years from now they might let him out, have done his time and he can find his own way wherever.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:53 am
 


Try him in Iraq. Send the Iraqi government a box of bullets to try, when he's sentenced to die.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:30 am
 


Our best bet for solving the Jihadi Jack problem might just be convincing these two that he has some serious dirt on them. :wink:



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