[uwish]

department killed more unarmed whites and Latinos than blacks...I say all lives matter.

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I love the laundry ad.

[Freakinoldguy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

But, since you consider the original Black Panther Party communist why don't you also consider the NBBP to be communists too? They've taken the name of and claim an affiliation with a the Black Panther Party which is as you said a communist organization.

I hate to Godwin a thread, but the 'National Socialists' in Germany weren't socialists, they were facists.

And yet you did.

But unlike the NBBP the Nazi's didn't take the communists name and manifesto then use it for their own while claiming (inaccurately if the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation is to be believed) to be affiliated with them.

Seems to me if you have the same beliefs, steal the same name and claim to represent them it becomes a case of "if it walks like a duck".

[Freakinoldguy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

But, since you consider the original Black Panther Party communist why don't you also consider the NBBP to be communists too? They've taken the name of and claim an affiliation with a the Black Panther Party which is as you said a communist organization.

I hate to Godwin a thread, but the 'National Socialists' in Germany weren't socialists, they were facists.

And yet you did.

But unlike the NBBP the Nazi's didn't take the communists name and manifesto then use it for their own while claiming to be affiliated with and representing them.

Seems to me it's a case of "if it walks like a duck".

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Wow. NFL gonna pick Kapernik now?

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[fifeboy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

The Charter guarantees the right to free speech and if visible minority players wanted to do so, then I say go for it.

I'd have ZERO problem with it.

Same here Boots, same here.

[fifeboy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thanos Thanos:

No, the social welfare system they built for those of provable Germanic blood was quite comprehensive and expansive. Eliminate all the warmongering and genocidal tendencies and the Nazis were easily as socialist as any left-of-center party in Europe today.

Fascism is textbook socialism. It features a centrally controlled economy, central control of banking, and government taking part ownership of private industry (dirigism).

Welfare states are NOT an aspect of socialism. Welfare states can be socialist but not all socialist countries have been welfare states that actually deliver social welfare programs to their people.

I don’t understand the present day obsession with hitler. I consider myself a Socialist, but would not even consider supporting a party that built itself on fertilizing hate against a group within my country. For past governments, regimes and leaders it’s what they did that counts. Who cares what they call themselves! Hitler used, to an extent, the government to rebuild the German economy, what we remember him for is something completely different!

[rickc]

bootlegga bootlegga:

rickc rickc:

xerxes xerxes:

Words are wind at this point. They blacklisted Kap for years and an apology would be meaningless.

So would you be ok with NHL players taking a knee with the playing of O Canada?

The Charter guarantees the right to free speech and if visible minority players wanted to do so, then I say go for it.

I'd have ZERO problem with it.

OK but I see that you are adding visible minority players as a qualifier. Why not every player? What if white American and European players started kneeling for O Canada? Is that cool too? You have to admit that would cause quite the stir in the media, would it not?

[Thanos]

fifeboy fifeboy:

I don’t understand the present day obsession with hitler. I consider myself a Socialist, but would not even consider supporting a party that built itself on fertilizing hate against a group within my country. For past governments, regimes and leaders it’s what they did that counts. Who cares what they call themselves! Hitler used, to an extent, the government to rebuild the German economy, what we remember him for is something completely different!

Fascists can be socialist, as shown in the classic European examples of them making social welfare part of their agenda. Communists can also apparently be capitalists, as going by the example of modern China. And capitalists can also be the most persistent of welfare mooches, as shown any given day by the number of corporations that literally can't survive on their own without public money propping them up. Like I said the labels are morphable to the point of being irrelevant, so getting bogged down in theoretical talks over what any of these ideologies are is kind of pointless. It's not a slap at anyone on a personal level to say this.

[fifeboy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Capsaicin is also bush league. If it's my call then I'm going with ammonia. About a pint of ammonia is enough to safely clear a football stadium.

Good grief Bart, you sound like the Marcus Penn character in that stupid Stevan Seagal movie Under Siege II.

[fifeboy]

Thanos Thanos:

fifeboy fifeboy:

I don’t understand the present day obsession with hitler. I consider myself a Socialist, but would not even consider supporting a party that built itself on fertilizing hate against a group within my country. For past governments, regimes and leaders it’s what they did that counts. Who cares what they call themselves! Hitler used, to an extent, the government to rebuild the German economy, what we remember him for is something completely different!

Fascists can be socialist, as shown in the classic European examples of them making social welfare part of their agenda. Communists can also apparently be capitalists, as going by the example of modern China. And capitalists can also be the most persistent of welfare mooches, as shown any given day by the number of corporations that literally can't survive on their own without public money propping them up. Like I said the labels are morphable to the point of being irrelevant, so getting bogged down in theoretical talks over what any of these ideologies are is kind of pointless. It's not a slap at anyone on a personal level to say this.

[Thanos]

Like Negan said on The Walking Dead, the bad guys don't think of themselves that way. They truly believe they're doing the good thing for the world.

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[Public_Domain]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

bootlegga bootlegga:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

But, since you consider the original Black Panther Party communist why don't you also consider the NBBP to be communists too? They've taken the name of and claim an affiliation with a the Black Panther Party which is as you said a communist organization.

I hate to Godwin a thread, but the 'National Socialists' in Germany weren't socialists, they were facists.

And yet you did.

But unlike the NBBP the Nazi's didn't take the communists name and manifesto then use it for their own while claiming (inaccurately if the Dr. Huey P. Newton Foundation is to be believed) to be affiliated with them.

Seems to me if you have the same beliefs, steal the same name and claim to represent them it becomes a case of "if it walks like a duck".

dude, mein kampf, hitler describes why the nsdap used the name "socialist workers party"; it was to ween off the working class away from the socialist and communist parties. it's something fascists have always done and continue to do: use leftist language to hoodwink working class support.

if you prattle on about "the jews" as the money holders of society, you're not a communist. it's far more than just zionists who are rich, and if all of them were gone this would still be a capitalist hellscape that oppresses the working class poor. it's theoryless empty-headed nonsense. they aren't reading lenin or marx or mao and coming to this conclusion. they're cribbing on a classic brand, that's it

anyway, glad to hear you accept that the democratic people's republic of korea is a democracy because they used the word, so it must be unquestionably true