[Newsbot]

Title: G.M. Will Sell Only Zero-Emission Vehicles by 2035
Category: Business
Posted By: Scape
Date: 2021-01-28 12:57:31

[DrCaleb]

Non Onion link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/busi ... icles.html

[CDN_PATRIOT]

Bye bye, GM.


-J.

[DrCaleb]

Yea, they are going to go right down the drain, like Tesla and Fisker.


Oh . .wait . .

[PluggyRug]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Yea, they are going to go right down the drain, like Tesla and Fisker.


Oh . .wait . .

They would have to be made affordable to the average joe.

[raydan]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Yea, they are going to go right down the drain, like Tesla and Fisker.


Oh . .wait . .

They would have to be made affordable to the average joe.

You know that few people could buy internal combustion cars when they first came out.

My first computer cost me $4,500... prices go down as the technology improves and more people buy them.

[DrCaleb]

raydan raydan:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Yea, they are going to go right down the drain, like Tesla and Fisker.


Oh . .wait . .

They would have to be made affordable to the average joe.

You know that few people could buy internal combustion cars when they first came out.

My first computer cost me $4,500... prices go down as the technology improves and more people buy them.

Model 3 starts at $51k. Not cheap, but BMW sells plenty at twice the price.
Hyundai, Kia, Nissan and Chevy all sell models for around $40k. And Cooper sells one under $40k.

[herbie]

Pricing is the thing always pointed out about electrics. $40K???!!!!
Then Americans won't buy those $20,000 ICE shitboxes if you paid them too and gladly fork over $90K for a pickup.
Friends wife bought a sitting on the lot unsold for 2 years tiny Ford 3 banger for $20K. Can hardly get in it, plenty of gadgets but as comfortable and gutless as my 1991 Kei truck was.
Goddam absolute barebones bottom end Wrangler is 40K now.

[bootlegga]

I believe that once range and size gets a bit better, EVs will really fly off the lot, especially given that they aren't all that much more than ICE vehicles now.

Even in Alberta, growth in EV sales is staggering - in the last 5 years, it's seen 1000% growth, and that's without any sort of grant or purchasing incentive from the government here. Granted , that's going from 20+ in 2015 to 2200+ now, but even hybrid sales are up by 50%, while ICE vehicles are stagnant over the same period.

If the feds roll out an EV purchase incentive, you can expect that sales will grow even faster.

A side benefit of EVs replacing ICE vehicles is that air pollution in big cities should decrease as less exhaust is spewed into the atmosphere - hopefully it will be as big a health benefit as ending coal burning power generation.

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I believe that once range and size gets a bit better,

Evs have plenty of range for the average daily commuter.

They don't need 700km ranges for the once in a decade mythical 'family trip'. Most people only drive 60km round trip in a day.

[herbie]

No. Others will still sell hybrids. There's your long range option.
Like GM made those for the last decade but people were too fucking stupid to understand the concept.
"Duhh Chevvy Volts can only go 40 miles... nnduhh...."
I'm sure you all heard that one too.

[Tricks]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

bootlegga bootlegga:

I believe that once range and size gets a bit better,

Evs have plenty of range for the average daily commuter.

They don't need 700km ranges for the once in a decade mythical 'family trip'. Most people only drive 60km round trip in a day.

Man my family is weird then. Typically speaking, if my family goes somewhere in the U.S. or Canada, we drive. My grandfather used to drive from London ontario to the middle of florida in one go.... In an RV.

[DrCaleb]

Tricks Tricks:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

bootlegga bootlegga:

I believe that once range and size gets a bit better,

Evs have plenty of range for the average daily commuter.

They don't need 700km ranges for the once in a decade mythical 'family trip'. Most people only drive 60km round trip in a day.

Man my family is weird then. Typically speaking, if my family goes somewhere in the U.S. or Canada, we drive. My grandfather used to drive from London ontario to the middle of florida in one go.... In an RV.

Well, ya! Most people only drive as far as the airport.

[herbie]

2 hours to the airport. Two hours ahead of flight time. $299 for plane ticket. Security. Limited carry on. One hour flight. One hour get luggage, car etc. Two hours in traffic from airport to Fraser Valley.
Or 10 hours by car. At my pace, with satellite radio luggage for 2 plus an old desk in the back. Stop and get out whenever I want. Grab a decent meal along the way. Smoke if I want to. $79 worth of gas.
Tie in: camera stolen out of luggage by airport staff one occasion. $200 stolen from wallet going thru security on another. Reporting these resulted in airline giving me two more complimentary opportunities to experience the same bullshit.
Sorry, I'd rather drive.

[Tricks]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Well, ya! Most people only drive as far as the airport.

Yeah my family doesn't fly. And even my extended family is like that. I didn't get on a plane until I was flying for work a few years ago, but I've been all over Canada and the States. Though recently the longest I'll drive in one shot is about 350-400 km, which electrics can do now.