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Revive Canada's global credibility


| 206903 hits | Dec 29 1:25 pm | Posted by: Sargasso
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Prime Minister Stephen Harper faces a major foreign policy test when the House of Commons resumes sitting Jan. 28 after the holiday break. Early in 2008, the Conservatives have to decide whether to soldier on in Afghanistan when Canada's current mission

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  1. by avatar kevlarman
    Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:05 am
    Okay, I have trouble with some of what this guy's saying...
    At the United Nations, Canada is gaining a reputation for being a shirker on climate change, erratic on human rights and inactive on nuclear disarmament, three areas where we once proudly led the way. On foreign aid, our performance is shabby, and deteriorating.
    First of all, can't some OTHER damn nations step up to the plate and start to fund the UN and other foreign causes like we and few other notable countries do? It seems to me the world is divided into those who cause the shit and those who clean the shit. So why should I care if Canada doesn't always want to play the chump who "cleans the shit" made by less evolved countries?

    And this crap about KYOTO? Please! Kyoto would have seriously hurt our economy and it wasn't designed for countries with our unique set of challenges being as we're too damn big at times to uniformly govern and control. It's not like we are small little tykes like Japan or Korea or Brazil and the logistics of providing power, communications and other services to our land is as easy as just "doing it".

    And this crap about being tougher on countries bent on nuclear arms as well as existing countries with nuclear arsenals. Please, you can't make the big boys do anything they don't want to do, we haven't got the economic clout or the military might for it. Nor is it any of our damn business to enforce a law that very few countries believe in anymore. Why the hell does Canada have to play the "hall-monitor" all the time. For christ's sake, we do fine for ourselves, just let the world look after itself for awhile, this hero needs to look after it's own people better than it looks after the world for a change. Not like we used to do and bend over backwards trying to please the world when the we told our own people to "wait" to take Ottawa's crumbs.

    For once, the world needs to get off it's ass and "be it's own bloody miracle."

    Leave Canada the fuck alone and the guy who wrote this article can fuck himself too.

    Pussy / U.N. Sell-out that he is........

  2. by avatar kevlarman
    Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:06 pm

  3. by Anonymous
    Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:16 pm
    A nation of 35 000 000 is expected to save the world you know...


    I will agree on the point about human rights violations, we let Bill 101 exist.

  4. by avatar uwish
    Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:26 pm
    an editorial from the commy star like this doesn�t surprise me in the least. I see for once a country that is standing up for itself and it�s values and all the tree huggers are screaming because they like being raped by the world.

    Grow up! we were all talk under the previous governments we had NO military capability to do much of anything.

    and if I hear one more fucken looser spout off about Kyoto I will punch him in the face. It won�t work, it was NEVER going to work and it�s done, get over it!! anyone who thinks bankrupting our nation so every other nation could still shit in the rivers is sadly neive and requires institutionalization.

    grow a fucken pair already!

    and I particularly like this part


    "If Harper truly aspires to advance "Canada's international leadership," he will have to bring more creativity and engagement to the file in 2008 than he has shown thus far."

    yeah, lets go back to crooken face or mr dithers, they were doing such a fine job wern�t they. At least we have a PM who I am not embarrassed by.

    The star is just like the cbc, full of left wing ideological idiots who like jack layton live in a world that doesn�t exsist.

  5. by ryan29
    Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:17 am
    "uwish" said
    an editorial from the commy star like this doesn�t surprise me in the least. I see for once a country that is standing up for itself and it�s values and all the tree huggers are screaming because they like being raped by the world.

    Grow up! we were all talk under the previous governments we had NO military capability to do much of anything.

    and if I hear one more fucken looser spout off about Kyoto I will punch him in the face. It won�t work, it was NEVER going to work and it�s done, get over it!! anyone who thinks bankrupting our nation so every other nation could still shit in the rivers is sadly neive and requires institutionalization.

    grow a fucken pair already!

    and I particularly like this part


    "If Harper truly aspires to advance "Canada's international leadership," he will have to bring more creativity and engagement to the file in 2008 than he has shown thus far."

    yeah, lets go back to crooken face or mr dithers, they were doing such a fine job wern�t they. At least we have a PM who I am not embarrassed by.

    The star is just like the cbc, full of left wing ideological idiots who like jack layton live in a world that doesn�t exsist.



    agree not a surprise this article came from the star , and they honestly think a liberal government would restore this ? if its really lacking to begin with . myself i somehow doubt credibilty has really been at stake . more conservatives have annoyed some of the previous lefty global groups which previously supported the liberals .
    and are now making friends with different countries and groups that are out there . but other that taking some heat at bali , when you look at global conferences in general in last few years canada has not looked bad or any credibilty issues .

  6. by sasquatch2
    Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:45 am
    Basically this author is lamenting that the canadian voter is vilainous for frustrating the LIBRANO/KYOTO agenda......

    They are frustrated that they no longer can dictate public opinion by announcing:

    "The majority of Canadians agree...." when they announce their latest political boondoggle.

    The fact that Canada is now a respected world leader rather than a mindless UN ideolog is what they really resent. Hopefully Canada will in the pages of history get credit for being the one who noticed the king was bare-assed at BALI. It is possible that Australia's new government will get the credit for it's common sense revision of it's climate politics policy.

  7. by avatar dog77_1999
    Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:21 am
    Canada's credibility tarnished? Not bloody likely. Canada is very likeable and it's very hard to get an image out of people's minds once it's in there.

    I mean, when you want to get angry at Canadians, what do you think of? For me, it took about 2 minutes and all I could think of was Celen Dion. :wink:

  8. by avatar kevlarman
    Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:46 pm
    What I'd like to know is where did this culture of self-loathing come from? I've heard it on the radio and seen it on TV ever since I was a little kid. I've bumped into this self-hatred in college and was compared to my American relatives when I showed too much Canadian pride.

    Where's this shit come from? It's clear this man is part of that culture and why can't these folks realize that you can be a patriotic Canadian without coming off like a British, French, Russian Imperialist or even a Yankee. We have our country, our own people, our own culture and our very DISTINCT set of reasons to be proud. Every country, throughout it's lifespan, will give it's sons and daughters some very distinct reasons to point to their flag and be proud. Canada has been around long enough to offer that and it's sons and daughters have much to be proud of.

    Why is it wrong to love Canada?

  9. by sasquatch2
    Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:53 am
    kevlarman
    What I'd like to know is where did this culture of self-loathing come from?


    The anti-war, counter culture, "peace movement" of the 60's. It is one of the vestiges of the COLD WAR.

    It is the driving force behind the AGW alarmists and the anti-gun-nutters.

  10. by avatar kevlarman
    Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:47 am
    The only thing that will make it go away is for their generation to move off to obscurity. And since that ain't happening our generation will have to be just as vocal, just a intelligent and just as power hungry as their's is. PDT_Armataz_01_40

    Canada's credibility wordwide will be improved upon its ALREADY GREAT world standing if it does the following...

    a.) Step up to the mat and PROPERLY secure it's borders, it's waterways and airspace with a combination of better, smarter border patrol agents. Integrated agencies (CSIS, RCMP, Provincial police, Border patrol, the Coast Gaurd, Search and Rescue, and our Armed Forces). Keep the autonomy of these groups but let's get rid of the duplication and increase our effectiveness and save some money while we're at it. The Armed Forces stay as they are, the RCMP/CSIS/Provincial & City Police in one group, Border Patrol/Coast Gaurd/Search and Rescue in another group. Have these three groups work together. By doing this the bad guys of the world and other nations won't laugh so damn hard when we tell them we're serious about our National Security/Sovereignty.

    b.) Demand accountability with our foreign aid dollars. If we're helping a country, they don't have to become Canadian or think like us but they do have to use our dollars for the things we gave those dollars to them for. The country has to respect human rights and our dollars should buy at least a modicum of International support when we take up issues at the UN or the World Court. It should also help us in areas of trade with them.

    c.) We should dump this bullshit idea of just random, free-for-all Free Trade for the sake of Free Trade. In short, dump the American model of trade (the trade agreements were not written in stone, they CAN be walked out on...) and adopt a model of FAIR Trade. Link human rights, social development, ecological sustainability and easier international trade relations with this model.

    d.) Adopt a sustainable and accountable Immigration system that also alows highly skilled immigrants to be accepted on par with our professionals. That way we can get more doctors, teachers, nurses and whatever else our market needs that year without the having to force a highly trained Belgium doctor or Russian nurse to select a job as a cab driver or a waitress as a last resort when they get here. Reward their wise choice of choosing Canada as a new home with some free or highly subsidized extra education and upgrading of their current skills. That way we make sure they DO know what they need to know for their choosen profession and we don't become every skilled immigrants second or third choice for a new home country.

    e.) While not affecting anyone else in the world it sure would be a feather of technological pride in our cap. We should adopt a new space policy that allows for the construction of two spaceports. One in western Canada and one out east. The spaceport wouldn't have to be fancy and may only be able to send up satellites and unmanned probes for the first few decades but hey, at least we wouldn't be totally dependant on the USA for our space faring needs. Oh, and talk about a point of national pride for every Canadian. If you doubt that, you should have been with me the last time I went on a tour at NASA south of Houston. You could tell every Canadian in the group, including myself as we walked past the Canada Arm be demonstrated there. You could hear at least twenty people saying, hey, honey, or hey, kids you know that was made where (mommy/daddy) is from? It was cool, my wife laughed about all the expatriates "counting Canadian".

    Please notice that not ONE of these ideas included signing up to a feel-good international foreign aid program designed to get the leaders of that country rich and keep their people down while making us feel good that at least we gave some help to a poor country. Not one of these suggestions involved us signing on to another international group of countries that talks and talks and talks about getting stuff done and NEVER, ever does anything. Hello, the UN anyone? I'm sick of those days of talk much and do nothing foreign policies. We got brains, brawn, money and will, so let us use it to our advantage. Ignore the hippies and let's get something of merit accomplished in our lifetime, eh'?

  11. by avatar EyeBrock
    Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:47 am
    Another bullshit thread from our newest chum, sargasso.

    Nice to see he is consistent with his 13 posts.

  12. by ryan29
    Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:45 pm
    "sasquatch2" said
    Basically this author is lamenting that the canadian voter is vilainous for frustrating the LIBRANO/KYOTO agenda......

    They are frustrated that they no longer can dictate public opinion by announcing:

    "The majority of Canadians agree...." when they announce their latest political boondoggle.

    The fact that Canada is now a respected world leader rather than a mindless UN ideolog is what they really resent. Hopefully Canada will in the pages of history get credit for being the one who noticed the king was bare-assed at BALI. It is possible that Australia's new government will get the credit for it's common sense revision of it's climate politics policy.



    frustration , that might have something to do with these articles from toronto star . there definity a frustrated bunch in liberal downtown toronto , soon to be home riding of bob rae .

  13. by avatar paisley_cross
    Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:42 pm
    Lester Pearson earned a Nobel Peace Prize for Mideast peacekeeping in the 1960s. Pierre Trudeau boldly championed d�tente and arms control with Communist China and the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 1980s. Brian Mulroney famously pressed the Commonwealth to repudiate South Africa's apartheid system in the 1980s. Jean Chr�tien went to war in the Balkans in the 1990s to thwart genocide, sent troops to Afghanistan to suppress terror after the 9/11 attacks and declined to join an unjustifiable war on Iraq. These leaders were alert to core Canadian values and did not shrink from a challenge.


    And two governments (a Liberal one and a Conservative one) sent troops to Afghanistan in the hope of developing a democracy to replace the Taliban.

  14. by avatar Streaker
    Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:48 pm
    "kevlarman" said
    What I'd like to know is where did this culture of self-loathing come from? I've heard it on the radio and seen it on TV ever since I was a little kid. I've bumped into this self-hatred in college and was compared to my American relatives when I showed too much Canadian pride.

    Where's this shit come from? It's clear this man is part of that culture and why can't these folks realize that you can be a patriotic Canadian without coming off like a British, French, Russian Imperialist or even a Yankee. We have our country, our own people, our own culture and our very DISTINCT set of reasons to be proud. Every country, throughout it's lifespan, will give it's sons and daughters some very distinct reasons to point to their flag and be proud. Canada has been around long enough to offer that and it's sons and daughters have much to be proud of.

    Why is it wrong to love Canada?


    Who's been saying that it's wrong to love Canada?



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