How goddamn paranoid and deranged does one have to be to see that scarf as a Keffiyah? I realise it's Michelle Malkin, but still...what a horrible world that woman has constructed for herself if she sees terrorists everywhere.
"xerxes" said How goddamn paranoid and deranged does one have to be to see that scarf as a Keffiyah? I realise it's Michelle Malkin, but still...what a horrible world that woman has constructed for herself if she sees terrorists everywhere.
Well, when they're advertised as such...then yeah, they're usually are. I don't see it as some deranged event to not want to see something quite commonly linked to terrorist movements as some fashion statement.
I mean, if the KKK hood somehow became a fashion statement, I'll just be pissed. But if she truly wants to wear the "scarf" then she can go ahead, it is a free country, just like if you wore a KKK hood, just expect people to be pissed.
"xerxes" said But that's exactly my point. Malkin is seeing something that isn't there:
A white and black scarf is not automatically a symbol of terrorism. Especially a frilly one worn by a TV host holding a latte.
No, but that design is. They sell "scarfs" of that exact design and call them keffiyah, then they are keffiyah, or what some call "Peace scarves" to try to escape criticism.
You can call it a scarf, but its a keffiyah, which is a symbol for terrorism. If I only wear the hood of a Klansman, but not the rest of the outfit, its still symbolic of the KKK.
Edit: Here is a NYT article about the keffiyah controversy. They clearly identify what she wears as the keffiyah, unless you're seriously going to continue calling it just a simple scarf
her smile scares me more than any scarf ever could. look at her, it's like she's a plastic stepford wife. *shudder* besides all this does is make an ad SOME people would see, and plaster it on all the news websites and television...an upgrade in advertising FOR FREE.
Really, I think it is a non-story. Malkin really shouldn't have gotten all offended, it is a free country and anyone can wear anything that they want to wear. That said, people are within their rights to complain to the companies that sell them, and the companies are within their rights to completely wuss out and pull the scarves.
Ah, rights. How complicated you can make things sometimes.
Edit in respond to G-prime, who ninja-ed my response: Oo, I hadn't thought of the free advertising. That suggests the possibility that the company arranged this on purpose.
"G-prime" said her smile scares me more than any scarf ever could. look at her, it's like she's a plastic stepford wife. *shudder* besides all this does is make an ad SOME people would see, and plaster it on all the news websites and television...an upgrade in advertising FOR FREE.
True, but then again, none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
"commanderkai" said ...none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
That makes me wonder, do these commercial actresses really dress themselves? I always figured that the people running the commercials, I figured companies contracted out by various companies to make commercials, would choose the clothing for them so that the effect of the commercial was just right.
"Deiwos" said ...none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
That makes me wonder, do these commercial actresses really dress themselves? I always figured that the people running the commercials, I figured companies contracted out by various companies to make commercials, would choose the clothing for them so that the effect of the commercial was just right.
Most of the right wing bloggers condemned her and not the company, since I don't think corporations would try a stunt like this and risk the wraith of the Jewish American community.
"commanderkai" said ...none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
That makes me wonder, do these commercial actresses really dress themselves? I always figured that the people running the commercials, I figured companies contracted out by various companies to make commercials, would choose the clothing for them so that the effect of the commercial was just right.
Most of the right wing bloggers condemned her and not the company, since I don't think corporations would try a stunt like this and risk the wraith of the Jewish American community.
No, that does make sense, I just never figured that they would let the actresses choose their own clothes for commercials. I certainly wouldn't let them do so if I was running the commercial myself, and I already new better even before reading that article.
Not that they would all fail miserably, but if I were to make a commercial, I would want to make it to an image in my mind, and that would involve actors and actresses wearing specific clothes.
How goddamn paranoid and deranged does one have to be to see that scarf as a Keffiyah? I realise it's Michelle Malkin, but still...what a horrible world that woman has constructed for herself if she sees terrorists everywhere.
Well, when they're advertised as such...then yeah, they're usually are. I don't see it as some deranged event to not want to see something quite commonly linked to terrorist movements as some fashion statement.
I mean, if the KKK hood somehow became a fashion statement, I'll just be pissed. But if she truly wants to wear the "scarf" then she can go ahead, it is a free country, just like if you wore a KKK hood, just expect people to be pissed.
A white and black scarf is not automatically a symbol of terrorism. Especially a frilly one worn by a TV host holding a latte.
But that's exactly my point. Malkin is seeing something that isn't there:
A white and black scarf is not automatically a symbol of terrorism. Especially a frilly one worn by a TV host holding a latte.
No, but that design is. They sell "scarfs" of that exact design and call them keffiyah, then they are keffiyah, or what some call "Peace scarves" to try to escape criticism.
You can call it a scarf, but its a keffiyah, which is a symbol for terrorism. If I only wear the hood of a Klansman, but not the rest of the outfit, its still symbolic of the KKK.
Edit: Here is a NYT article about the keffiyah controversy. They clearly identify what she wears as the keffiyah, unless you're seriously going to continue calling it just a simple scarf
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/11/fashi ... ref=slogin
The Israeli Army sells the same scarves. It's Anti-Israel to be offended!!
They do? Where?
Ah, rights. How complicated you can make things sometimes.
Edit in respond to G-prime, who ninja-ed my response:
Oo, I hadn't thought of the free advertising. That suggests the possibility that the company arranged this on purpose.
her smile scares me more than any scarf ever could. look at her, it's like she's a plastic stepford wife. *shudder* besides all this does is make an ad SOME people would see, and plaster it on all the news websites and television...an upgrade in advertising FOR FREE.
True, but then again, none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
...none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
That makes me wonder, do these commercial actresses really dress themselves? I always figured that the people running the commercials, I figured companies contracted out by various companies to make commercials, would choose the clothing for them so that the effect of the commercial was just right.
...none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
That makes me wonder, do these commercial actresses really dress themselves? I always figured that the people running the commercials, I figured companies contracted out by various companies to make commercials, would choose the clothing for them so that the effect of the commercial was just right.
Most of the right wing bloggers condemned her and not the company, since I don't think corporations would try a stunt like this and risk the wraith of the Jewish American community.
...none of the right wing bloggers condemned Dunkin Donuts for it.
That makes me wonder, do these commercial actresses really dress themselves? I always figured that the people running the commercials, I figured companies contracted out by various companies to make commercials, would choose the clothing for them so that the effect of the commercial was just right.
Most of the right wing bloggers condemned her and not the company, since I don't think corporations would try a stunt like this and risk the wraith of the Jewish American community.
No, that does make sense, I just never figured that they would let the actresses choose their own clothes for commercials. I certainly wouldn't let them do so if I was running the commercial myself, and I already new better even before reading that article.
Not that they would all fail miserably, but if I were to make a commercial, I would want to make it to an image in my mind, and that would involve actors and actresses wearing specific clothes.