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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
| Robert |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:45 pm
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| cmab wrote: <b>Although I am a federalist, I have to say that most of French Quebecers see themselves as Quebecers first, then Canadians. The attachement to Canada is about 50/50 more or less.</b><br /> <br /> But try taking away their Canadian passport and you may just get y... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:43 pm
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| OK, but if it is ok for you to split Canada up to achieve your country then why isn't ok for those loyal Canadians in Quebec to keep their country? Why would you want to keep a large segment of the population against their will. Or is it ok for them to just get out of Quebec?<br /> <br />... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:41 pm
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| Obviously, federalists vote for separatist parties and vice versa. Do you not believe that some separatists voted for Jean Charest? <br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Delenda] [QUOTE] Delenda wrote: <b>54% favour sovereignty</b>.<br /> <br /> In regards to this, Delenda, fa... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:37 pm
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| Ahh, no. Most French Quebecers are attached to Canada. Why were separatists so afraid to ask a direct question in referendum? French Quebecers are the majority in Quebec, yet separatists couldn't convince them to give up on Canada, even with their deceptive question.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE ... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:33 pm
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| Delenda, Strange that it is ok for you to be obsessed with separation/partition but you think it odd that I talk of separation/partition. Why's that? |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:27 pm
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| No, Delenda, I DO NOT CONDONE violence. Read some media reports (non-separatist) about the abuses many federalists suffered trying to vote in the 1995 referendum. You don't have to believe what happened but just read what happened. |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:15 pm
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| Perhaps you don't FEEL that Alberta, PEI belong to you, but the reality is that they do. I totally believe that all Canadians should understand both French and English. There are many anglophones in Montreal who do not speak French, they seem to survive just fine.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY=... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:11 pm
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| Delenda wrote: land "given" to us in 1867 was stolen from us before that.<br />
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Can you direct me to a source that backs this up. French or English, I can read both. Thanks. |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:06 pm
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| Delenda wrote: There is no crime in "offering a partnership". <br /> <br /> Perhaps not. But this should be worked out before offering it to Quebecers in a referendum. Quebecers should know before whether Canada would be willing to accept the relationship offered. (Presumptious of separa... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 1:02 pm
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| Can't not talk about Saint Lucien and Whacky Jacky, they were both a big part of the separatist movement. And, please don't feel as if I would be insulted if you talk about Jean Chretien, he is no hero to me. |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:59 pm
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| Delenda, I appreciate your honesty on the referendum question. But doesn't the second part really cover all bases? No one would be forced to live in a country he or she didn't want to. |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:47 pm
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| Delenda wrote: <b>54% favour sovereignty</b>.<br /> <br /> In regards to this, Delenda, favouring sovereignty and voting for separatist parties are two different things. I actually think Gilles would make an excellent premier or later an excellent leader of the opposition. Or... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:41 pm
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| Delenda wrote: This sounds paternalistic (and contemptuous). It sounds like one nation (an anglo nation) has the upper hand on the other one (the French one). <br /> <br /> <br /> Well, ummm, yes Delenda, Canada is the recognized country (it has a coveted seat at the United Nations... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:37 pm
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| Delenda wrote: ...54% favour sovereignty! and it's going to be much, much more on the next referendum!<br /> <br /> What exactly was the question asked in the poll? Besides, polls change from day to day. When is the next referendum, 3 years, much can change, either way. But keep dreaming... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 12:32 pm
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| Delenda<br /> <br /> Don't worry about Quebec being partitioned. It's not going to happen any more than Quebec is going to separate from Canada. Saint Lucien Bouchard and the boys couldn't manage it with all the tricks they tried. <br /> <br /> Do you think Saint Lucien would... |
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