[Newsbot]

Title: Ex-Nazi guard charged with helping to kill 430,000 Jews
Category: World
Posted By: wildrosegirl
Date: 2010-07-28 05:23:59

[GreenTiger]

I didn't think there were many from that group who were still a live. If he is mentally intact go after him.

[Mustang1]

All of his ilk demand persecution, but it should be remembered that many culpable participants in the Final Solution escaped justice as they were ferried out of the 3rd Reich into Cold War projects like rocketry.

[martin14]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

All of his ilk demand persecution, but it should be remembered that many culpable participants in the Final Solution escaped justice as they were ferried out of the 3rd Reich into Cold War projects like rocketry.

And lets not forget the Japanese who got the same break.

[BartSimpson]

This is absurd.

[hurley_108]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

This is absurd.

What is?

[Brenda]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

This is absurd.

I agree.

$1:

As a soldier with the Soviet Red Army during World War II, he was captured by the Germans and given the choice of either staying at the Chelm prisoner of war camp or co-operating with the Nazis, said Hillenbrand.

Kunz agreed to work with the Nazis and, after he was trained at Trawniki, was transferred to Belzec where he served as a camp guard, Hillenbrand said.

After the war, he moved to Bonn, worked for many years at a federal ministry and was granted German citizenship.

He didn't have much choice, did he.

[Mustang1]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

This is absurd.

What is?

Methinks this is going to drift into some ugly territory.

[BartSimpson]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

This is absurd.

What is?

Prosecuting an 88yo man for something he was forced to do 70 years ago.

This accomplishes nothing.

[Mustang1]

Evidently some missed the point of the Nuremberg Trials - no one was "forced" (read up on some history as even SS personal had options) to do anything - let alone murder or genocide - and "following orders" was removed as an excuse

This is about justice, history and righting the wrongs of the past - this keeps the memory alive and reminds fugitives and the culpable that time won't let you evade judgment.

[Brenda]

This man was a POW and was given the choice to stay that way, or to be a guard at a camp.
I am very for prosecuting the masterminds of the war, but people like this? Meh, waste of taxmoney.

[Mustang1]

How delightfully dismissive and ignorant - evidently to the insensitive and uneducated, there's apparently a statue of limitations on GENOCIDE and its prosecution has a price tag.

What a complete piece of trash - next time we'll add up the liberation of Holland and remember, no crime stands the test the time in the pedestrian minds of the Nazi-apologists

Brenda, stay out of topics that are beyond you trashcan intellect - you that post was one of the dumbest, ahistorical pieces of swill i've had the misfortune to read in a long time. Get a life.

[Brenda]

Prove to me he was the one doing the killing or being the one ordering the killings, and I fully agree with you and he should be prosecuted. Just being there as a guard doesn't make him a mass murderer.

He was not a Nazi, btw.

I would really appreciate it if you would cut the personal attacks. They are uncalled for and I am sick and tired of it.

[Mustang1]

Brenda Brenda:

Prove to me he was the one doing the killing or being the one ordering the killings, and I fully agree with you and he should be prosecuted. Just being there as a guard doesn't make him a mass murderer.

Prove to you?!? Sorry, it's obvious that your historical understanding isn't up to snuff (what part of the article did you find unconvincing?!?) - the onus isn't on me to substantiate his guilt (nor prove it to the likes of you), but i do think he deserves a fair, balanced trial, like the others accused of crimes against humanity.

And guards have been shown to have been willing executioners - this is basic Holocaust history that evidently you're not aware of and it's not my role to educate you on the matter.

And that's not what you originally posted - you made a dismissive, insensitive remark that somehow hinged on his wartime station and money. That alone dismisses most of you what you puke out here as bushleague swill.

$1:

He was not a Nazi, btw.

Many have been persecuted and found guilty that weren't card-carrying members of the Nazi party. You knew that right? Didn't think so

$1:

I would really appreciate it if you would cut the personal attacks. They are uncalled for and I am sick and tired of it.

Get bent. You've attacked me before, attacked others, dished out insults with aplomb and then hypocritically chastised others for similar acts. You've got zero currency here and your future behavior will dictate how i choose to respond. Don't like it? I don't care (your kind of revisionist ignorance belongs on Stormfront not CKA). Hit the ignore button.

[BartSimpson]

Mustang1 Mustang1:

Evidently some missed the point of the Nuremberg Trials - no one was "forced" (read up on some history as even SS personal had options) to do anything - let alone murder or genocide - and "following orders" was removed as an excuse

This is about justice, history and righting the wrongs of the past - this keeps the memory alive and reminds fugitives and the culpable that time won't let you evade judgment.

I'm wondering, should the railroad engineers who drove the trains that went to the camps be prosecuted? What about the people who delivered supplies to the camps?

While we're at it, why don't we prosecute the surviving US, British, French, and Canadian immigration clerks who denied entry to refugees trying to escape the camps explicitly because they were Jewish? Their actions (just following orders, of course) led directly to the deaths of thousands of Jews.

Remember, Nuremberg found that actions or inactions that led to the deaths of people in the camps were prosecutable offenses. Raoul Wallenberg was a hero for saving Jewish refugees so doesn't it follow that other immigration clerks are criminals for NOT saving Jewish refugees?

So will you abide an 88 year old Canadian being hauled out of their retirement home and shipped off to a German court in the interests of justice, history and righting the wrongs of the past? Hmmmm?