[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

So I guess if we lived in Walking Dead world when Rick says "we gotta work together and no single man has the right to take everything" means that you guys would have rushed out to join up with Negan because you're not gonna put up with that kind of communism, n'est pas? How did Bart survive all those years in the Marines anyway, with all that "one for all, all for one, leave no man behind" quasi-socialist thing the jarheads take so seriously?

You're confusing voluntary loyalty with socialist-imposed slavery.

I'd kill and die for my friends and give them the shirt off my back and no one needs to ask for it.

But I'll fight like hell to put an end to any damned socialist who thinks they have a right to take something from someone at gunpoint.

And that's the thing: Socialists never shy away from using force to take what they want.

Never.

[BeaverFever]

Nazis jailed Marxists and communists by the thousands. They embraced capitalist governments which is why many American tycoons, and the US business/bNk community idealized Hitler early on. George Bush’s family fortune comes in part from the fact that his grandfather was a banker for the Nazis. And the Nazis supported other right wing anti-sociy dictatorships, like Spain’s Francisco Franco. The Nazis never once denounced the wealthy bourgeoisie or advocated for the impoverished proletariat.

In short, other than having the word “socialist” in the name of the party, there was nothing socialist about them

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I'd kill and die for my friends and give them the shirt off my back and no one needs to ask for it.

Then more is the tragedy that someone as honourable as you got roped in by an economic and political ideology that is the living definition of "all for us, none for them" and which benefits only the worst men with the worst character.

Not dissing you, I got fooled by it too for most of my life as well. Took way to long to grow up and see what they are all about.

[ShepherdsDog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Hey Fiddy, Thanks for covering my six!

And Horthy attempts to rescue the Reich, yet fails.

[Thanos]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Hey Fiddy, Thanks for covering my six!

And Horthy attempts to rescue the Reich, yet fails.

Still deserves the Seb Gorka Participation Award though, maybe?

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Nazis jailed Marxists and communists by the thousands. They embraced capitalist governments which is why many American tycoons, and the US business/bNk community idealized Hitler early on. George Bush’s family fortune comes in part from the fact that his grandfather was a banker for the Nazis. And the Nazis supported other right wing anti-sociy dictatorships, like Spain’s Francisco Franco. The Nazis never once denounced the wealthy bourgeoisie or advocated for the impoverished proletariat.

In short, other than having the word “socialist” in the name of the party, there was nothing socialist about them

Irrelevant blather, re-spun factiness and exception proves the rule nonsense.

[ShepherdsDog]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Irrelevant blather, re-spun factiness and exception proves the rule nonsense.

Cool, Fiddly Dee is now giving us the Cliffs Notes version of his posts.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Irrelevant blather, re-spun factiness and exception proves the rule nonsense.

Cool, Fiddly Dee is now giving us the Cliffs Notes version of his posts.

As opposed to what you did above with your cliffs note on my post, you mean. What? Are you complimenting me? Can I be in your and Thanos's new-socialists club now?

Just as long as "new socialist" is like what you claim for "national socialists" and doesn't actually mean anything socialist, I accept.

[ShepherdsDog]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Irrelevant blather, re-spun factiness and exception proves the rule nonsense.

Thanks for summing up all your arguments. You're the best crazy out there.

[N_Fiddledog]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Irrelevant blather, re-spun factiness and exception proves the rule nonsense.

Thanks for summing up all your arguments. You're the best crazy out there.

Ignorance suits you, Bud. It confirms my profile of modern teachers. Although my God, I hope what you're teaching isn't history. What would the course be called, I wonder? De-contextualized, revised factiness, exception proves the rule history. Or do you just call it "Progressive?"

[N_Fiddledog]

Back on subject, but staying with you and me for a sec, Shep...

I'm thinking; suppose I had never heard of Nazis or National Socialism, but I walked into your class and you told me there was a society run by a group called "National Socialists." Suppose you asked me to write an essay on what I would expect to find in such a society.

I think I would tell you I would expect a society run by collectivist authoritarians. It would be Nationalist-driven as opposed to the more globalist revolution projected by Marx. Nevertheless, I would expect the leadership to have early connections to other socialists, and references in their writings accepting socialism.

Also, there would be an easy acceptance of corporatism as we see with the democratic socialists. Other than all that though, it would have strong similarities in its process with Communism.



I would of course be completely correct, which would mean you as a good Progressive teacher would have to fail me.

[herbie]

It probably would do you soe good to walk into A class on Nazi-ism. But fist you'd have to drop the moronic attitude that it's a classroom and not a political indocrination camp, that 'factiness' is not a word but if it was it would mean something is real, and that progressive and evil do not mean the same thing.
You might learn the common denominator of Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR was totalitarianism not socialism.
You might even learn the difference between socialism and communism along the way.
But I doubt it.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

It probably would do you some good to walk into A class on Nazi-ism.

He's living it large. The last time he was likely in a classroom he was stealing his classmates milk and toys.

Lil' Horthy can keep cheer-leading his heroes.

[N_Fiddledog]

Wait...so now I'm supposed to be cheerleading Nazis by noticing they were National Socialists and the term means what it appears to mean.

Wouldn't that make me pro-socialist? And if that's what you believe in spite of all evidence to the contrary, wouldn't that make you...oh, I don't know...nuts?

[N_Fiddledog]

herbie herbie:

You might learn the common denominator of Hitler's Germany and Stalin's USSR was totalitarianism not socialism.

As always, herb...



but keep it up. Why ruin a perfect score.

The most obvious political similarity shared by Communism and National Socialism would be collectivism under a central authority.