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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:19 pm
Appletree Appletree: I lived in this beautiful country for over 26 years and do to this experience I am seriously considering to leave Canada and go back to my country of origin.(  Huh. You've lived here for 26 years, and now you're consdering running back to the homeland because you had a shitty time in a one horse town in BC? Really? Maybe you leaving would do us all a favour.
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Dragom
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:28 pm
Wait, people get invited over for coffee? I thought you had to do drugs to get invited into someones home.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:46 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Prince Rupert is a port we regularly visit, and I always enjoy it. Last I heard there were cruise ships adding PR to their stops because it's proven popular with the tourists. 
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:26 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Gunnair Gunnair: Prince Rupert is a port we regularly visit, and I always enjoy it. Last I heard there were cruise ships adding PR to their stops because it's proven popular with the tourists.  Any idea why do the tourist like it? Must be the weather. Last time I was there, Apache Pass was gone, along with most of the good restaurants/night clubs and almost all the loose women. Half the store fronts were borded over and the mall had two stores left in it and one of them was the orange julius stand. I know that the Provincial Government is talking about a deep sea port facility, but I somehow don't think that'll generate enough permanent jobs or income to revive what was once one of the most vibrant exciting and extememly interesting towns on the BC coast.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:27 pm
If any of these clowns had actually ever visited these towns I might give their claims more credence. Look slike they just looked at a bunch of stats. I've been to them all. Terrace is a great little spot. Definitely shouldn't be on that list. World class fishing and hunting there. Billy's Puddle (William's Lake) is pretty bad. Rupert could be a gem, but it is pretty rough. Bench brawls outside the bars on the weekend.
I notice that there are no First Nations communities on the list. Worst place I ever stayed was a reserve in BC. I had to spend the night in the RCMP detachment. That was the only safe place. There was only like 200 people living there but they had a massive violent crime and heroin problem. Then there's that place in Labrador where the ten year olds were huffing gasoline.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:32 pm
I can't trust any Top Ten Worst list that doesn't have Ft McMurray somewhere near the top (or bottom, depending on one's perspective) of it's rankings. And I only wish that I were kidding.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:28 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Gunnair Gunnair: Prince Rupert is a port we regularly visit, and I always enjoy it. Last I heard there were cruise ships adding PR to their stops because it's proven popular with the tourists.  Any idea why do the tourist like it? Must be the weather. Last time I was there, Apache Pass was gone, along with most of the good restaurants/night clubs and almost all the loose women. Half the store fronts were borded over and the mall had two stores left in it and one of them was the orange julius stand. I know that the Provincial Government is talking about a deep sea port facility, but I somehow don't think that'll generate enough permanent jobs or income to revive what was once one of the most vibrant exciting and extememly interesting towns on the BC coast. When were you there last? Cow Bay is a mini touristy place, Breakers Pub does great food, and the town seems pretty vibrant. Definitely an improvement over the last few years.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:09 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: When were you there last?
Cow Bay is a mini touristy place, Breakers Pub does great food, and the town seems pretty vibrant. Definitely an improvement over the last few years.
Middle to late 90's. Glad to hear it's picking up but I'm guessing it'll still be a long haul before it gets back to it's former glory, if it ever does, which is really to bad cause it was a great place.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:17 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: Gunnair Gunnair: When were you there last?
Cow Bay is a mini touristy place, Breakers Pub does great food, and the town seems pretty vibrant. Definitely an improvement over the last few years.
Middle to late 90's. Glad to hear it's picking up but I'm guessing it'll still be a long haul before it gets back to it's former glory, if it ever does, which is really to bad cause it was a great place. I dunno, most of our young sailors enjoy the Rupster, and the best part is, we berth down in Cow Bay as opposed to the ratty old pier outside of town.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:33 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: Gunnair Gunnair: When were you there last?
Cow Bay is a mini touristy place, Breakers Pub does great food, and the town seems pretty vibrant. Definitely an improvement over the last few years.
Middle to late 90's. Glad to hear it's picking up but I'm guessing it'll still be a long haul before it gets back to it's former glory, if it ever does, which is really to bad cause it was a great place. I dunno, most of our young sailors enjoy the Rupster, and the best part is, we berth down in Cow Bay as opposed to the ratty old pier outside of town. If they enjoy it now they would have loved it in the 60's and 70's. It was a nonstop party town.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:40 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: If they enjoy it now they would have loved it in the 60's and 70's. It was a nonstop party town.
No shit, I still wake up in the middle of the night with nightmares of Apache Pass. 
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:31 pm
Hyack Hyack: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: If they enjoy it now they would have loved it in the 60's and 70's. It was a nonstop party town.
No shit, I still wake up in the middle of the night with nightmares of Apache Pass.  I just went on google map and took a look at the Pass or whats left of it. It sure doesn't look anything like it did. That fire did a major job of renovating the place.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:07 pm
Quite the rant about Hooterville, Appletree! And don't go overboard on the guy Gunnair. It's downright weird there in that there's no ethnic mix. They've got a decent smorg we go to every few weeks there and the whole town is like Cowboys and Indians. Almost NO chinese (couple restaurant families, that's it) a couple Filipinos and ZERO East Indians. The whites are cliquey like any small town, but where the hell in Canada can you go all day without seeing brown people? Top that off on being on a flat open plain with no redeeming features (lake, ocean, mountain) that's just downright NASTY in winter. But the solution isn't to leave Canada, it's to move somewhere else. Even a few miles away like Prince George.
The Rinse will come back, they've actually lost a few cruise ships but the port is growing slow but steady. Won't see the heyday of the salmon times again though. Terrace seems hooped though. Beautiful town (2nd only to Smithers) but the mill is gone... the ole lady's from there, I'd love to meet one of her or her daughter's friends that as a fucking JOB someday. As for Bill's Puddle, it's a hell of a lot better than when I lived there in the recession of 82.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:22 pm
Appletree Appletree: :( Vanderhoof is one of the worst place to move to in BC.I do not want to attack anybody who lives in Vanderhoof. I just write down my personal experience and some of others who live or lived in your town.
I do not want to single out your town, because I think most small communities like this no meter where you go, but this is a personal experience, so it dose have validity.
I moved to Vanderhoof over 3 years ago. We made our decision by the initial visit and interview with one out of the 25+ churches’ leaders, to place our young child into there privet ( means family business)“Christian “ school. We had high hopes moving to a “small Christian community” because we thought that it is the right place for our family to live in. What a mistake!!! We did not know that the town is broken into 25+ of social groups ( churches)  and only about 4,000-5,000 people? . We found out with in a year that they are self serving, self protecting, people calling themselves Christians. There are two main groups of religious groups in Vanderhoof. The Mennonites and the Mormons. I do not know much about the Mormons, because we by chance got involved with the Mennonites. The only way an outsider can get in the inner circles if he or she married someone in this groups. If you come into the town with your own family, you are set up for frailer. Unless you are a professional whom they can not function with out , like a doctor,a lower, or a dentist. Professions that they can not produce from they own groups. These folks are tolerated. We were not one of this professions, so we are neglected from day one. We tried a lot of things to fit in. Joined their church, helped out of their social events, helped out in their school, and nothing. They just won’t care to make any effort to make friends with us. I have developed a serious depression because of the social isolation we been experiencing for the passed 3+ years. I lived in this beautiful country for over 26 years and do to this experience I am seriously considering to leave Canada and go back to my country of origin. We thought that we are doing something wrong. Not try hard enough to fit in. But a couple of days ago I spoken to a man who lived in Vanderhoof 40 years ago told me when the town was a boom town in the early 70's, and they were taking in anybody who came close to town to fill the positions in their wood mill, he had felt the isolation in the good times as well. He said “ I do not want to bad mouth them, but I felt that the people were cold to me , never wormed up to me while I lived there”. There is one other family I recently met had been living here just over three years and they are also try to get out of here. I just mentioned to them that how we fell, and instantly we became friends. I call my new friend John to keep his identity secret, so he cannot get in trouble because of me. So, John asked me if he could come and visit us, after a short conversation with him. They feel the isolation too. He told me he do not know most of his immediate neighbors, they never cared to say hello or invite them for a coffee. In a town where everybody knows everybody???!! I like to advise people who were not born in Vanderhoof, to stay away from this town!! People are as I wrote earlier, self centered, selfish, and self protecting. I also call them self serving Christians!! If there is anything like that.... I cannot wait to get out of here!!!!  Having been an outsider and moved to Vanderhoof I can tell you you are 100 percent wrong. My guess is you went there expecting something that wasn't possible. There aren't two main religious groups in town, there are many. Certainly there area large amount of Mennonites, both traditional and modern. There is also one Mormon church. However there is also Jehova's witness, and a handful of protestant and anglican Christian churches, as well as a strong catholic presence. My experience in Vanderhoof is the complete opposite of yours. I have fond memories of the people I've met and when I return I still see people who are warm and friendly. No offense but I think you might have watched little house on the prairie too much and expected Walnut Grove.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:24 pm
herbie herbie: .... and ZERO East Indians. Stop now, the fact you stated this shows you know nothing of Vanderhoof.
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