[Newsbot]

Title: Before Parliament Hill attack, RCMP got 3 warnings, reduced patrols
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2015-10-21 06:59:43
Canadian

[DrCaleb]

So, the whole premise behind bill C-51 is flawed. Police don't need more powers, government departments don't need to share our information amongst themselves. What's needed is departments to spend the monies alloted to them to perform their duties. Like the RCMP actually putting officers on the street.

[fifeboy]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

So, the whole premise behind bill C-51 is flawed. Police don't need more powers, government departments don't need to share our information amongst themselves. What's needed is departments to spend the monies alloted to them to perform their duties. Like the RCMP actually putting officers on the street.

Now there's an idea.

[DrCaleb]

I know, I'm just a free radical.

[andyt]

It almost seems like a purposeful policy. Reduce police resources so crime goes up, then use that as an excuse to enact more draconian laws that have nobody to enforce them. Perfect red meat for the base: low taxes and an appearance of being tough on crime. And keep that base scared.

[Thanos]

Works well as a tactic in the US too. The most glaring example would be the GOP congress gutting security for embassies and consulates to the tune of about a third of a billion dollars then not bothering to mention this at all during any of their inquisitions over the Benghazi killings.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

It almost seems like a purposeful policy. Reduce police resources so crime goes up, then use that as an excuse to enact more draconian laws that have nobody to enforce them. Perfect red meat for the base: low taxes and an appearance of being tough on crime. And keep that base scared.

The Russians call such a government-sponsored deception a maskirovka.

That's because they were used to it with the Soviets.

I wonder if we need to adopt the word.

[andyt]

This story is also eerily similar to the 9/11 situation. You've got to wonder, again, if this is purposeful action because a good scare never hurt anybody (ie the powers that be), it's worth losing a few people over and keeps the FD's of the world raving about the threat. So it's not an inside job, obviously, but maybe it has an element of come on in, we left the door open for ya, to it.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

This story is also eerily similar to the 9/11 situation. You've got to wonder. again, if this is purposeful action because a good scare never hurt anybody (ie the powers that be), it's worth losing a few people over and keeps the FD's of the world raving about the threat. So it's not an inside job, obviously, but maybe it has an element of come on in, we left the door open for ya, to it.

Yea, because only conservative politicians would ever consider using their own people as pawns to be murdered to create fear.

Had Obama or JT been in power, those words would never have been written. Conservatives and Republicans are all evil.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Works well as a tactic in the US too. The most glaring example would be the GOP congress gutting security for embassies and consulates to the tune of about a third of a billion dollars then not bothering to mention this at all during any of their inquisitions over the Benghazi killings.

Those were not cuts to existing spending. The Obama Administration had requested funding under the security budget for things that were unrelated to security and even the then-Democrat controlled Senate (in 2010) concurred and the final compromise bill between the GOP and the Democrats provided zero funding for Obama's requests which included things that had nothing whatsoever to do with security.

The fact of the matter is that actual security spending in the 2010 budget for the State Department increased by $330 million.

Don't fall for the leftist propaganda that a reduced increase in spending is a cut to existing spending. It is not.

[romanP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

It almost seems like a purposeful policy. Reduce police resources so crime goes up, then use that as an excuse to enact more draconian laws that have nobody to enforce them. Perfect red meat for the base: low taxes and an appearance of being tough on crime. And keep that base scared.

The Russians call such a government-sponsored deception a maskirovka.

That's because they were used to it with the Soviets.

I wonder if we need to adopt the word.

perhaps you could tell us what that word means instead of just saying stuff you heard.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

So, the whole premise behind bill C-51 is flawed. Police don't need more powers, government departments don't need to share our information amongst themselves. What's needed is departments to spend the monies alloted to them to perform their duties. Like the RCMP actually putting officers on the street.

Quit fooling yourself, it won't be changed.

[romanP]

just for the record, and to dispel all of these ridiculous tinfoil hat theories, Michael Zehaf-Bibeau knew he was mentally ill and warned his doctors that he should be in prison so he wouldn't do what he did. no one listened, so he committed suicide by cop. it has very little, actually nothing at all, to do with organised terrorism, but it was the perfect excuse Stephen Harper needed to introduce a bill that would solidify and mandate a police state.

if you want to find the organised terrorists all you have to do is visit your local police department. the terrorists carry guns and badges, and have the ability to beat you and kill you with impunity. case in point: many people thought there was more than one shooter on that day, exactly because cops were running around in masks and brandishing guns.

[BartSimpson]

romanP romanP:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

andyt andyt:

It almost seems like a purposeful policy. Reduce police resources so crime goes up, then use that as an excuse to enact more draconian laws that have nobody to enforce them. Perfect red meat for the base: low taxes and an appearance of being tough on crime. And keep that base scared.

The Russians call such a government-sponsored deception a maskirovka.

That's because they were used to it with the Soviets.

I wonder if we need to adopt the word.

perhaps you could tell us what that word means instead of just saying stuff you heard.

Maybe you can go get your aluminum bat and stamp the meaning of it into my jaw.

[romanP]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Maybe you can go get your aluminum bat and stamp the meaning of it into my jaw.

give me the opportunity, and i will.