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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:58 am
 


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I like how evolution is being taught in schools as fact when in FACT, it is still a THEORY. Even the "educated" masses that believe in evolution conveniently forget it's a theory still and thusly UNPROVEN.


1. It is taught as theory and not as fact.

2. To prove a scientific theory one of the most important things you need to be able to do is make a prediction based on the theory and then observe that prediction coming true. How exactly do you propose to do that with the theory of evolution? We would essentially have to pick the next creature we think will evolve slightly then watch it for 1000 years. Can't be done. The theory of evolution will never be proven to this degree no matter how true it may be. In that light that it is a theory does not discount it's overall validity.


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God is just a theory too. Does anyone have definitive proof that there is a god? Science can't explain the existence of black holes in the universe either. Religion came about because we know very little about our universe and how it came to be, so we compensate by developing a belief system that makes us comfortable. That's just my theory. Of course, I can't prove any of it, for god's sake!

Science most certainly can explain black holes.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:28 am
 


Go ahead, please explain.


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gonavy47 gonavy47:
Go ahead, please explain.


Black holes are God taking huge bong hits.


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gonavy47 gonavy47:
Go ahead, please explain.

Black holes are basically, extremely powerful gravitational fields. Invisible on their own, they can be detected when large objects such as stars are being drawn to an otherwise "empty" portion of space. because they don't even allow light to be reflected, we don't know what they look like on the inside or what happens to thigns that are drawn into them. Regardless, science has been able to explain what they are.

What is the explanation that you are offering?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:26 pm
 


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...then your a moron.


When presenting the argument that someone is a moron I've found that the argument is all the more effective when presented with proper grammar. :idea:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:17 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
...then your a moron.


When presenting the argument that someone is a moron I've found that the argument is all the more effective when presented with proper grammar. :idea:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:47 pm
 


Meh it was late and I was lazy.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:55 pm
 


gonavy47 gonavy47:
Go ahead, please explain.


Would you like pictures?


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Im sure there are several well done videos on youtube explaining current black hole theories.


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$1:
I like how evolution is being taught in schools as fact when in FACT, it is still a THEORY. Even the "educated" masses that believe in evolution conveniently forget it's a theory still and thusly UNPROVEN.


1. It is taught as theory and not as fact.

2. To prove a scientific theory one of the most important things you need to be able to do is make a prediction based on the theory and then observe that prediction coming true. How exactly do you propose to do that with the theory of evolution? We would essentially have to pick the next creature we think will evolve slightly then watch it for 1000 years. Can't be done. The theory of evolution will never be proven to this degree no matter how true it may be. In that light that it is a theory does not discount it's overall validity.




We've observed it in a few years. During the industrial revolution in the UK, trees changed from white to black because of pollution. It was followed in the same way by a race of butterflies. The white butterflies would not blend it anymore, so they got eaten by predators, and black butterfly survived.

We've also examined the same thing in a specie of lizards. They were left on an island for many years, and when we came back, they were significantly bigger and their jaws had changed.



About the black holes, according to general relativity, it is an object so small and so heavy that it deforms the space considerably, causing a gravitational attraction so strong that even light can't get out.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:34 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
gonavy47 gonavy47:
Go ahead, please explain.


Would you like pictures?

Yes I would, but apparently it's so dense that light won't penetrate it, so please use a really powerful anti-matter flash. Okay? 8O


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:43 pm
 


gonavy47 gonavy47:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
gonavy47 gonavy47:
Go ahead, please explain.


Would you like pictures?

Yes I would, but apparently it's so dense that light won't penetrate it, so please use a really powerful anti-matter flash. Okay? 8O


Incorrect. It is so heavy (not dense), that space and time have become so warped as to create a gravitational well so strong that even light cannot escape it. We have to detect black holes by other means, such as the force they exert on objects around them.

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2003/bhspin/

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2000/0204/

Light penetrates a black hole, easily. It just never reflects off the object so we can see it. But as matter crosses the event horizon it can compress, accelerate and release such a burst of energy in the form of x-rays that we can see these 'jets' of x-rays.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:56 pm
 


Thanks for the vid Caleb!


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Thanks for the vid Caleb!


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