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Why do you cry about the right to own a firearm but not the right to smoke maryjane?
Why do you think your beliefs should be the legal foundation for Canada?
Why do you ignore the fact that Vancouver crime is about Vancouver drug turf?
All you do is dodge the real issues all the time.
Really, then why don't you support making guns illegal to defeat gun crimes?
I support manditory punishment of criminals who are proven to use firearms in crimes, not the average legal citizen who is doing the right thing.
Why penalize the 95% who are legal to get the 5% who are illegal?
Why do you cry about the right to own a firearm but not the right to smoke maryjane?
I actually support the right of people to grow pot for their own use. If all pot smokers grew their own, it would remove the local market from organized crime.
Why do you think your beliefs should be the legal foundation for Canada?
Aside from being such a stupid and loaded question, my opinions and beliefs are just as valid as you'res or anyone elses.
Why do you ignore the fact that Vancouver crime is about Vancouver drug turf?
Why do you continue to tell me this when I showed numerous examples of local gangs who were involved in local shootings AND international pot & drug smuggling?
You need to prove you're case, not just parrot it.
All you do is dodge the real issues all the time.
Questions answered.
I support manditory punishment of criminals who are proven to use firearms in crimes, not the average legal citizen who is doing the right thing.
Why penalize the 95% who are legal to get the 5% who are illegal?
Its only legal if we allow it just as drugs and prostitution.
I actually support the right of people to grow pot for their own use. If all pot smokers grew their own, it would remove the local market from organized crime.
And all gun owners have the right to refine their own metals and smith their own guns. They must also construct their own bullets.
Alcohol consumers must all ferment their own beverages also.
See the contradiction. Pot smokers have the right to their consumer needs being met as surely as you do.
Aside from being such a stupid and loaded question, my opinions and beliefs are just as valid as you'res or anyone elses.
Except other people don't demand their be entrenched in law. I don't own a gun nor believe people need one yet I don't support gun banning. I don't do a lot of things I believe should be legal.
Why do you continue to tell me this when I showed numerous examples of local gangs who were involved in local shootings AND international pot & drug smuggling?
You need to prove you're case, not just parrot it.
You showed a few cases. You bitched and complained about TO shootings blaming everything Toronto/Liberal. You could not pin it down to anything though.
You simply do not understand the situation no matter how much you claim to.
You keep citing cocaine examples trying to show pot smoking should be illegal. You ignore the fact that such violence would be tempered if it were legal because they could buy it legally. Just like booze. Any shootouts between Coors and Molsons? Is Dumarier and Players killing each other?
legalization makes sense.
I support manditory punishment of criminals who are proven to use firearms in crimes, not the average legal citizen who is doing the right thing.
Why penalize the 95% who are legal to get the 5% who are illegal?
Its only legal if we allow it just as drugs and prostitution.
Why? How are legal guns related to illegal drugs or human slavery?
Why do you cry about the right to own a firearm but not the right to smoke maryjane?
I actually support the right of people to grow pot for their own use. If all pot smokers grew their own, it would remove the local market from organized crime.
Alcohol consumers must all ferment their own beverages also.
See the contradiction. Pot smokers have the right to their consumer needs being met as surely as you do.
Over 95% of the firearms legally owned in Canada are used in a responsible and law abiding way. There is no point is persecuting the legal minority in an attempt to harm the illegal minority.
I've been clear that I support users growing their own pot, just as I brew my own beer or wine, under the established rules that it's for my own use and/or not for sale.
I suppose you could draw an analogy between the safe use of illegal handguns and the "safe" use of illegal drugs but I'm not going there because it's too dumb.
And all gun owners have the right to refine their own metals and smith their own guns. They must also construct their own bullets.
This is just so dumb I don't know where to start.
This gun - drugs analogy just isn't working so well.
Aside from being such a stupid and loaded question, my opinions and beliefs are just as valid as you'res or anyone elses.
Except other people don't demand their be entrenched in law. I don't own a gun nor believe people need one yet I don't support gun banning. I don't do a lot of things I believe should be legal.
You say over and over again that you don't support a gun ban yet I never see you support the legal ownership. Either you accept civilian ownership or you do not.
It really can't be both.
Why do you continue to tell me this when I showed numerous examples of local gangs who were involved in local shootings AND international pot & drug smuggling?
You need to prove you're case, not just parrot it.
You showed a few cases. You bitched and complained about TO shootings blaming everything Toronto/Liberal. You could not pin it down to anything though.
I laughed about Toronto's stupid bandaid of handgun bans when the real problem is the drugs and the gangs.
I clearly proved that the gangs that are currently shooting it up in BC are the same ones who were caught for smuggling of BC Pot, drugs and illegal weapons in and out of the US and other countries.
You keep citing cocaine examples trying to show pot smoking should be illegal. You ignore the fact that such violence would be tempered if it were legal because they could buy it legally. Just like booze. Any shootouts between Coors and Molsons? Is Dumarier and Players killing each other?
legalization makes sense.
It would make a difference if it was legal in the US, where the major market and the big money is.. but it's not. Untill the US changes, we're right back to the alcohol prohibition situation we were in before.
Why? How are legal guns related to illegal drugs or human slavery?
The ingestion of things we enjoy and engaging in the most basic of human needs equating with being allowed to own a human constructed instrument of death?
The answer: All things are choices.
Over 95% of the firearms legally owned in Canada are used in a responsible and law abiding way. There is no point is persecuting the legal minority in an attempt to harm the illegal minority.
I've been clear that I support users growing their own pot, just as I brew my own beer or wine, under the established rules that it's for my own use and/or not for sale.
So what? The majority of pot users (who don't fit your grandmas description) fall into that category but you can't legalize them without basically making it legal for everybody. Just a fact you have not considered.
In addition, why can't non-growers enjoy the same rights? You may be a ubrew customer but you sure as shit do not grow your own barley and hops.
The vast majority of gun owners are legal because gun ownership and usage is legal Take that away and what do you have. Make drugs legal and you eliminate illegal drug usage.
You simply cannot make a point I cannot defeat.
I suppose you could draw an analogy between the safe use of illegal handguns and the "safe" use of illegal drugs but I'm not going there because it's too dumb.
No, you won't because it invalidates your argument entirely.
This is just so dumb I don't know where to start.
This gun - drugs analogy just isn't working so well.
Yes it is. You just think that people should have the right to own weapons that can kill people over the rights of people to ingest substances that affect only themselves, an argument you turn your back on when it concerns things you support like alcohol or tobacco.
You say over and over again that you don't support a gun ban yet I never see you support the legal ownership. Either you accept civilian ownership or you do not.
It really can't be both.
Actually I do fully support civilian ownership. Ask uwish. I just fight the nonsense that arming the civilian populace is an answer to crime but never have I said people don't deserve the right to own guns.
I laughed about Toronto's stupid bandaid of handgun bans when the real problem is the drugs and the gangs.
I clearly proved that the gangs that are currently shooting it up in BC are the same ones who were caught for smuggling of BC Pot, drugs and illegal weapons in and out of the US and other countries.
You ridiculed Toronto every chance you got as poor bastards who deserved it then claimed some notion that the handgun ban would eliminate it.
Now you blame illegal drugs for Vancouvers problems (you always blame others) yet fail to see that baning drugs obviously doesn't work.
Drugs and guns. You claim one should be illegal in order to solve the crime problem and the other should be legal to solve the crime problem.
It doesn't actually matter which argument you actually make as you are wrong either way.
That was extremely easy to defeat your logic and argument.
It would make a difference if it was legal in the US, where the major market and the big money is.. but it's not. Untill the US changes, we're right back to the alcohol prohibition situation we were in before.
The US is not our problem. Their lax gun laws allow illegal guns up here so I see no reason why our lax drug laws should do the same.
They view their guns laws as a constitutional right.
Piss on them for their opinion of our laws.