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Healthy polar bear count confounds doomsayers

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Healthy polar bear count confounds doomsayers


Environmental | 207743 hits | Apr 06 8:43 am | Posted by: Bodah
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The numbers are positive, but there is still concern about sustainability

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  1. by avatar DanSC
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:59 pm
    Guess we're going to have to hunt more polar bears. Don't want them taking over the world.

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:01 pm
    "DanSC" said
    Guess we're going to have to hunt more polar bears. Don't want them taking over the world.


    No, the environmentalists will want to kill them off in order to 'prove' gloabl warming.

  3. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:06 pm
    PeTA is good at killing off animals in their 'care'.

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:30 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    PeTA is good at killing off animals in their 'care'.


    :lol:

    True! http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

  5. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:56 pm
    Some peope might want to re-read this part:

    "Mr. Gissing added that the government isn�t dismissing concerns about climate change, but he said Nunavut wants to base bear-management practices on current information �and not predictions about what might happen.�

    The study�s conclusions drew concern from Andrew Derocher, a professor of biological sciences at the University of Alberta who has been studying polar-bear populations for years. Prof. Derocher said the 1,013 figure is derived from a range of 717 bears to 1,430. �It�s premature to draw many conclusions,� he said, adding that there were no comparative figures and the upper end of the range, 1,430, was highly unlikely.

    Prof. Derocher also said some details in the survey pointed to a bear population in trouble. For example, the survey identified 50 cubs, which are usually less than 10 months old, and 22 yearlings, roughly 22 months old. That�s nearly one-third the number required for a healthy population, he said. �This is a clear indication that this population is not sustaining itself in any way, shape, or form.�

  6. by peck420
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:11 pm
    BeverFever,

    So what?

    They all openly admit to having serious issues counting adult polar bears during aerial surveys. It makes perfect, logical, sense that they would have even greater problems counting smaller polar bears (cubs, yearlings,etc).

    Maybe somebody should invest in doing an actual count? Maybe invest in some ultraviolet detection technology which, thanks to the US military, we know detect polar bears easily.

    Edit to add:

    Here is the actual study:

  7. by avatar andyt
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:19 pm
    I think people who hunt polar bears are dickless dorks. But, if the US is going to make them an endangered species they should get accurate population data first.

  8. by eureka
    Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:19 pm
    Good to be a Polar bear if you live in Foxe Basin! One of the few out of the twenty or so populations and having less than ten percent of the world population.

    Most of those others are, by count, already in severe decline; disregarding the health issues surrounding the young.

    The Foxe Basin bears can enjoy their fools' paradise for a few more years. Serious investigation shows that the whole species could be close to extinction within twenty years as Arctic ice gradually disappears.

  9. by avatar BeaverFever
    Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:37 am
    "peck420" said
    BeverFever,

    So what?

    They all openly admit to having serious issues counting adult polar bears during aerial surveys. It makes perfect, logical, sense that they would have even greater problems counting smaller polar bears (cubs, yearlings,etc).

    Maybe somebody should invest in doing an actual count? Maybe invest in some ultraviolet detection technology which, thanks to the US military, we know detect polar bears easily.

    Edit to add:

    Here is the actual study:



    My post was just in response to earlier comments that this news item somehow "disproves" any claim that polar bears population is threatened or that climate change is ocurring.

  10. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:43 am
    "peck420" said
    BeverFever,

    So what?


    Exactly. We can't actually hug or pet polar bears, and we already have pictures of them, so what possible use could they be?



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