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Netherlands liable for deaths in1995 Bosnia mas

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Netherlands liable for deaths in1995 Bosnia massacre: Supreme Court


World | 206623 hits | Sep 06 6:30 am | Posted by: BeaverFever
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The ruling could have an impact on future UN peacekeeping missions, as states could be reluctant to participate in foreign military operations if their troops can be held responsible when things go wrong

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  1. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:12 pm
    Boy, I hope that they don't hold Canada responsible for Rwanda.

  2. by avatar Brenda
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:43 pm
    A few of my friends served in Srebrenica. They all came back saying they were understaffed, underarmed, and felt useless. They haven't done a 10th of what they signed up for. Or so they said. Some of them suffered a lot mentally...

    Btw, this decision is ridiculous. 8000 men were killed by their own government. The Netherlands is responsible for 3, apparently. What about the other 7997? Come on now.

  3. by avatar martin14
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:50 pm
    "Brenda" said
    A few of my friends served in Srebrenica. They all came back saying they were understaffed, underarmed, and felt useless. They haven't done a 10th of what they signed up for. Or so they said. Some of them suffered a lot mentally...



    And now the gov't can drop out a couple extra million euros to boot.

    That will go over well.

  4. by avatar martin14
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:52 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    Boy, I hope that they don't hold Canada responsible for Rwanda.



    Don't hold your breath, courts can make all kinds of stupid decisions.

  5. by avatar saturn_656
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:59 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    Boy, I hope that they don't hold Canada responsible for Rwanda.


    Canadian troops in Rwanda did what they could with what limited resources they had, they weren't turning defenceless Tutsis over to angry Hutus.

    Rwanda is such a tiny country that Canada, even with our limited military resources, could have stopped the entire shit show alone.

    But no, had to defer to the UN.

  6. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:24 pm
    "saturn_656" said
    Boy, I hope that they don't hold Canada responsible for Rwanda.


    Canadian troops in Rwanda did what they could with what limited resources they had, they weren't turning defenceless Tutsis over to angry Hutus.

    Rwanda is such a tiny country that Canada, even with our limited military resources, could have stopped the entire shit show alone.

    But no, had to defer to the UN.


    "Kofi knew better" ... or so he thought.

  7. by Thanos
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:38 pm
    It's nice to know that a lawyer and some judges can always find a way to blame some stuff on soldiers who all came back home with PTSD from the things they saw over there. This idiocy is an accurate summation of the bizarro-land world of international "human rights" arguments. "We tried to save them, but couldn't, because the guys In New York who were in charge said we weren't allowed to ever shoot back at anyone who was shooting at us, so it's all our fault but not the fault of the psychopaths who were digging the holes, pulling the triggers, and swinging the machetes and axes around, and then their families decided to sue us for it 20 years later and then some judges and lawyers who never went near a battlefield in their entire lives decided we're worse than Hitler and.........". Hoo boy. Here's hoping the idea of peace-keeping is altogether buried after this kind of twisted legalese bullshit decision. :?

  8. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:43 pm
    Politicians and bureaucrats are the ones to blame.

  9. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:48 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    Politicians and bureaucrats are the ones to blame.



    That's right. Those Dutch soldiers were in that weird place due to circumstances way beyond their control. If this was a typical U.N. gig, their rules of engagement were probably are clear as tar and as logical as Lindsey Lohan. The U.N. should be on trial, here.

  10. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:56 pm

    It's nice to know that a lawyer and some judges can always find a way to blame some stuff on soldiers


    Not the soldiers, the Netherlands government is blamed.


    so it's all our fault but not the fault of the psychopaths who were digging the holes


    Nobody's saying the Serbs weren't primarily to blame. But when Dutch politicians decide to hand people over to a mass-murderer, they have some culpability too.



    But no, had to defer to the UN.

    Let's not pretend the Chretien gov't wanted it either.

  11. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:14 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    Politicians and bureaucrats are the ones to blame.



    That's right. Those Dutch soldiers were in that weird place due to circumstances way beyond their control. If this was a typical U.N. gig, their rules of engagement were probably are clear as tar and as logical as Lindsey Lohan. The U.N. should be on trial, here.


    I remember they had trouble with ROEs in Somalia too.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:58 pm
    The victims were among thousands of Muslims who took shelter in the UN compound as Bosnian Serb forces commanded by Gen. Ratko Mladic overran Srebrenica on July 11, 1995. Two days later, the outnumbered Dutch peacekeepers bowed to pressure from Mladic�s troops and forced thousands of Muslim families out of the compound.


    Fuck that. I'd have died fighting before surrendering to thugs. I'd rather be dead then have to deal with letting innocent people die.

  13. by avatar 2Cdo
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:15 pm
    "martin14" said
    Boy, I hope that they don't hold Canada responsible for Rwanda.



    Don't hold your breath, courts can make all kinds of stupid decisions.
    Ask Daillaire why he won't ever visit Belguim in his lifetime. 8O

  14. by avatar 2Cdo
    Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:15 pm
    Damn double post. :twisted:



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