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Raise gas tax and add road tolls, expert tells

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Raise gas tax and add road tolls, expert tells Ontario


Business | 206732 hits | Jul 15 4:05 pm | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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The time is right for hiking fuel taxes and tolling roads to pay down the deficit and fund transit, says Trent University prof.

Comments

  1. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:10 am
    R=UP

  2. by avatar 2Cdo
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:50 am
    "andyt" said
    R=UP


    I knew you'd like this, you probably believe the "temporary" tax notation and that the money would not end up in general revenue. :lol:

  3. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:01 am
    Should definitely not be temporary. Once you put in road tolls, it would be idiotic to remove them. Gas taxes are a good tax - ie tax what you don't want. As for general revenue, looks like Ontario needs revenue, but definitely these taxes should first go to transit. If you make driving more expensive or difficult, you have to provide an alternative. one way or another this is coming anyway, with the push getting stronger to do something about co2 emissions

  4. by avatar PluggyRug
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:55 am
    "andyt" said
    Should definitely not be temporary. Once you put in road tolls, it would be idiotic to remove them. Gas taxes are a good tax - ie tax what you don't want. As for general revenue, looks like Ontario needs revenue, but definitely these taxes should first go to transit. If you make driving more expensive or difficult, you have to provide an alternative. one way or another this is coming anyway, with the push getting stronger to do something about co2 emissions


    Your off base. What about those of who live outside of Toronto and have absolutely no access to public transit.

  5. by avatar Delwin
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:04 am
    Raising taxes on gas would increase the cost of doing business in Ontario and discourage investment. There is more to the equation.

  6. by avatar CDN_PATRIOT
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:05 am
    More tax is not the answer. As for road tolls, it's hard to say. Maybe introduce a toll for entering Toronto's downtown core, as a congestion charge. If they add tolls to too many highways, people will further jam surface streets to get around.

    -J.

  7. by avatar PluggyRug
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:06 am
    "Delwin" said
    Raising taxes on gas would increase the cost of doing business in Ontario and discourage investment. There is more to the equation.


    Correct, there are many factors.

  8. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:13 am
    Instead of tolling roads maybe they could just read your odometer yearly and charge you by the mile. And reduce income taxes/gas tax accordingly.

  9. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:18 am
    "Zipperfish" said
    Instead of tolling roads maybe they could just read your odometer yearly and charge you by the mile. And reduce income taxes/gas tax accordingly.


    The idea is to bring in badly needed revenue, so no point to what you are proposing.

  10. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:20 am
    "PluggyRug" said
    Should definitely not be temporary. Once you put in road tolls, it would be idiotic to remove them. Gas taxes are a good tax - ie tax what you don't want. As for general revenue, looks like Ontario needs revenue, but definitely these taxes should first go to transit. If you make driving more expensive or difficult, you have to provide an alternative. one way or another this is coming anyway, with the push getting stronger to do something about co2 emissions


    Your off base. What about those of who live outside of Toronto and have absolutely no access to public transit.

    As the report says, it's for transportation infrastructure. That would include people living outside TO. I'm also surprised to read that only TO has transit in Ontario.

  11. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:21 am
    "Delwin" said
    Raising taxes on gas would increase the cost of doing business in Ontario and discourage investment. There is more to the equation.


    Well obviously the answer then is to lower gas taxes to encourage investment. who cares if people are stuck in traffic and have trouble getting around - no economic cost to that at all.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:24 am
    I think y'all better get used to this, it's coming sure as shit.

  13. by avatar herbie
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:33 am
    You can find yourself like my brother-in-law's company.
    Paying $3,00 - $4,000 a month just in Port Mann road tolls. So much for new guys or raises for the old ones!
    You think you're still gonna get free deliveries when that shit kicks in?

  14. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:49 am
    "PluggyRug" said
    Should definitely not be temporary. Once you put in road tolls, it would be idiotic to remove them. Gas taxes are a good tax - ie tax what you don't want. As for general revenue, looks like Ontario needs revenue, but definitely these taxes should first go to transit. If you make driving more expensive or difficult, you have to provide an alternative. one way or another this is coming anyway, with the push getting stronger to do something about co2 emissions


    Your off base. What about those of who live outside of Toronto and have absolutely no access to public transit.

    Just like BC and I suspect pretty much every other province where the major centers are subsidized by everyone else.


    It's all about votes. :P



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