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Nato urges Spain not to refuel Russian warships

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Nato urges Spain not to refuel Russian warships on their way to Aleppo


World | 181617 hits | Oct 26 5:14 am | Posted by: martin14
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Eight of Vladimir Putin’s fleet including flagship aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov are expected to dock at the port of Cueta this week but might be told there's no fuel as Spain was urged to refuse them.

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  1. by avatar martin14
    Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:23 pm
    Surely a decision or pressure like this should be made in private, rather than this stupidly public statements from NATO ?

    What kind of idiot alliance is this, when one member agrees to a refueling, and now gets criticized in public for it, to the point of making ourselves look foolish and very disunited ?

    Putin having a good laugh, but getting ready for the war which Hillary will bring.

  2. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:00 pm
    Spain may be the last navy on Earth other than the Russians to carry bunker C (now that Preserver is gone!)

    Look at the crap coming out of that carrier's funnel!

  3. by Thanos
    Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:06 pm
    Refuse them access to any NATO port except for an emergency situation. Return to full Cold War policy towards the Russian navy. Full shadowing and fly-overs when they're in allied territorial waters.

  4. by avatar martin14
    Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:57 pm
    "Thanos" said
    Refuse them access to any NATO port except for an emergency situation. Return to full Cold War policy towards the Russian navy. Full shadowing and fly-overs when they're in allied territorial waters.


    The Russians already backed out of refueling in Spain.

    They brought 2 tankers with them, the Kuznetsov has it's own range of 8000 miles,
    they could fill up in 4 other countries, and bring tankers down from the Black Sea.

    Cueta was picked to see the reaction, and he got to watch it on the news.
    Another win for him, and we look like idiots.

  5. by Nuggie77
    Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:34 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    Spain may be the last navy on Earth other than the Russians to carry bunker C (now that Preserver is gone!)

    Look at the crap coming out of that carrier's funnel!


    Canada hasn't used bunker c since the 60's

  6. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:24 pm
    "Nuggie77" said
    Spain may be the last navy on Earth other than the Russians to carry bunker C (now that Preserver is gone!)

    Look at the crap coming out of that carrier's funnel!


    Canada hasn't used bunker c since the 60's
    Nope.

    The AORs burned it. Preserver, Protecteur and Provider were/are steam turbine. Preserver was just paid off, this month. The cold war DDE's and DDH's that lasted until the 21st century were all steam turbine, as well .... bunker. The gas turbine 280's were the first that did not burn it and the Frigates, of course, drink stove oil.

    We officially got out of the bunker business just a couple of weeks ago.

  7. by Nuggie77
    Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:00 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    Spain may be the last navy on Earth other than the Russians to carry bunker C (now that Preserver is gone!)

    Look at the crap coming out of that carrier's funnel!


    Canada hasn't used bunker c since the 60's
    Nope.

    The AORs burned it. Preserver, Protecteur and Provider were/are steam turbine. Preserver was just paid off, this month. The cold war DDE's and DDH's that lasted until the 21st century were all steam turbine, as well .... bunker. The gas turbine 280's were the first that did not burn it and the Frigates, of course, drink stove oil.

    We officially got out of the bunker business just a couple of weeks ago.

    Actually, no. The RCN has not used bunker c since the 60's. The current fleet and the AOR's, 280's and the old steamers burned distillate fuel.

  8. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:20 pm
    What does this really accomplish aside from just creating needless and petty animosity with the Russians? :roll:

  9. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:34 pm
    "Nuggie77" said


    Canada hasn't used bunker c since the 60's

    Nope.

    The AORs burned it. Preserver, Protecteur and Provider were/are steam turbine. Preserver was just paid off, this month. The cold war DDE's and DDH's that lasted until the 21st century were all steam turbine, as well .... bunker. The gas turbine 280's were the first that did not burn it and the Frigates, of course, drink stove oil.

    We officially got out of the bunker business just a couple of weeks ago.

    Actually, no. The RCN has not used bunker c since the 60's. The current fleet and the AOR's, 280's and the old steamers burned distillate fuel.

    What a waste of money.

  10. by avatar martin14
    Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:37 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    What does this really accomplish aside from just creating needless and petty animosity with the Russians? :roll:


    Making ourselves look foolish by having a public spat about it certainly
    helped our image.

    The Russians are refueling at sea atm.

  11. by Nuggie77
    Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:03 pm
    Actually, no. The RCN has not used bunker c since the 60's. The current fleet and the AOR's, 280's and the old steamers burned distillate fuel.

    What a waste of money.

    Can't burn bunker in a gas turbine.

  12. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:59 pm
    "Nuggie77" said
    Actually, no. The RCN has not used bunker c since the 60's. The current fleet and the AOR's, 280's and the old steamers burned distillate fuel.


    What a waste of money.

    Can't burn bunker in a gas turbine.


    It's a BIG waste of money to burn stove oil in a boiler that drives a steam turbine, and that is mostly what the Canadian Navy had at sea for the four dacades after the 1960's There were only four gas turbine powered ships in the entire navy until the 1990's and they were welded to the jetties during the Trudeau and Chretien years.


    What a waste of money.

  13. by Nuggie77
    Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:51 pm
    It's a BIG waste of money to burn stove oil in a boiler that drives a steam turbine, and that is mostly what the Canadian Navy had at sea for the four dacades after the 1960's There were only four gas turbine powered ships in the entire navy until the 1990's and they were welded to the jetties during the Trudeau and Chretien years.


    What a waste of money.

    What would have been a waste of money was having the AORs carrying 3 different types of fuel including aviation fuel. There were other reasons for getting rid of bunker fuel, including environmental rules. AS can be seen from the picture of the Russian ship, it burned very dirty. It also had to heated in the fuel tanks. Besides, NATO went to a standard fuel.



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