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 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:35 pm 

Replies: 102
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There must have been some ugly deals, to make Kennedy go over to Dion, and have joint fund raisers now! However, the above statement infers that Dion and Kennedy did something wrong. The only argument I see as valid in this case is that they exploited the rules which were in place. The reason for t...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:08 pm 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Firecat, the interesting thing is that Kennedy made a terrific blunder by quitting when he did! It was a silly mistake where he checked the total votes but not how the votes were moving. HE WAS ACTUALLY GAINING, when he quit, misreading the voting numbers. On that I agree. Iggy definitely will not ...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:26 pm 

Replies: 102
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I think the question is that Kennedy should raise his own funds to pay back his borrowings, and even if the leader has not been requested by the other candidates, (definitely he has not been asked by Michael,) the idea of such a joint fundraiser is incorrect. If the leader wishes, then he should ma...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:53 am 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


borrowing is a function of how much a lender can reasonably pay back and is self-regulating. Martha Hall Finlay was not going to borrow heavily because she was running for a principle; few thought she could actually win. Access to funds comes through political connections built over years of commun...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:39 am 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Kennedy has spoken often about why he went to Dion, and it is naive to think someone would offer his support unless a prominent cabinet job would be the reward. He's hardly going to quit the race and disappoint all his own organizers just to go back to the unemployment line. Firecat, the interestin...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:33 am 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Your repeated indignation over the Dion/Kennedy fundraiser continues to puzzle. Does Dion refuse other requests? Have other candidates proposed joint events that Dion has refused? I think the question is that Kennedy should raise his own funds to pay back his borrowings, and even if the leader has ...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:19 am 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Oh thanks, but I know that song by heart, from 'Busted flat in Baton Rouge' down to the 'Sha na na na na na na na' My point of changing it was a bit different. In this case Iggy had to be muzzled so much even to try for leadership, that it cramp...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:03 am 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Delvin, my second rule is as follows: b Factions should be declared in advance The best way to do this is to have no multiple rounds of voting at the convention. Each voter should get a sheet with the names of all candidates and should rank them in order of preference. After the votes are sorted, th...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:57 am 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


For Always4iggy, Could you clearly explain what rule was broken, and if none, explain why candidates shouldn't operate as they feel fit as long as they remain within the rules ? Is your issue with the rules themselves or the candidates ? Delwin, a good question, first of all, as you have guessed, I...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Tomorrow is another day

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:26 pm 

Replies: 26
Views: 1685


You've got the West part right. How did you come up with these attributes? You guessed, using your gut about something you don't know about. Again, how is this different from my original assessment of Iggy? It's not. Actually it is different from your original assessment. I do not work with gut fee...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:45 pm 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


While Firecat is away, let me not assume that the matter is well understood by everyone else. The first thing is that I am not here as a sore loser. I am an Iggy fan much before he even got elected from his constituency, and before he had even considered politics. It makes little difference to his i...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:03 pm 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Firecat Firecat:
I'm going out. Maybe in that time someone will come forth who can argue always4iggy's point. It is tedious to argue with him. If someone can present his ideas better I'll gladly discuss it with them. Later.
Firecat, is honesty tedious, or do YOU find it tedious? :D

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:49 pm 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


Sorry Lily, I just realise that you had re-appeared in an exchange that was essentially Firecat and me. In your case, the answer is the same but for different reasons. a. I present my detailed message. b. You come back with an 'ad-hominem' rejection, namely, you ignore all my points, but put me down...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:41 pm 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


It was for people like Lily and you, who find honesty tedious anyway! If you plan to call me a liar, you'd damned well better be able to back it up with something. Easy, Refer your post # 573, I think I'll wait to see the Party flag appear by this gentleman's name to continue this tedious exchange,...

 Forum: Liberal Party   Topic: Dion's famous first words.

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:30 pm 

Replies: 102
Views: 4942


The tax receipt is the part that is deductible on your income tax, just like it's been for ages. Any political event that qualifies under the Tax Act can issue a certain percentage as the deductible contribution. This is hardly scandalous. Your stand still makes no sense and even I can't help you o...
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