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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
| Prof_Chomsky |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:50 am
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llama66 llama66: $1: He'll come out a bigger criminal than he went in.
So you now admit he's a criminal, that what he did was criminal.
Judge Judy has spoken. |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:46 am
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| I am still on the same subject, and I have never called anyone dumb. If it was preventable, then it was not an accident. I don't know how many analogies it's going to take to make that point. If you drive too fast and you crash, it was not an accident. If you are shingling a roof, and you fall off ... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:18 am
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| What is the common theme? Accidents lack intent. They're not unpreventable. Now stop arguing with the official language. Maybe it would be convenient for you to redefine a lot of words, but that isn't how it works. That is exactly how safety training works. You are confusing 'prevent', and 'intend'... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:34 am
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| No. No. And, No. 'Criminal' and 'accident' have nothing to do with each other. The point we have been trying to make, over and over, is "accidents are not preventable", by definition. The company did not face crimial action, because the company did nothing criminal. No one in the event di... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:03 am
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| I guess I face manslaughter charges for my negligent actions. And justice in that case would be sending you to jail for a decade for a trash can accidentally blowing around in a storm? And what if it caused a 20 death accident? Life in prison? My point is you're guilty for your actions, not the ran... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:01 am
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| NASA's contract with Morton Thiokol, the contractor responsible for the solid rocket boosters, included a clause stating that in the event of a failure leading to "loss of life or mission," Thiokol would forfeit $10 million of its incentive fee and formally accept legal liability for the ... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:57 am
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| Common misconception: The Titanic was not called unsinkable until after she sunk. EJ Smith was an idiot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_and_myths_regarding_RMS_Titanic Like driving a car, you go the max speeds for the conditions. 26 kts is not ideal. The Challenger was a million part machine... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:49 am
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| I guess I face manslaughter charges for my negligent actions. And justice in that case would be sending you to jail for a decade for a trash can accidentally blowing around in a storm? And what if it caused a 20 death accident? Life in prison? My point is you're guilty for your actions, not the ran... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:45 am
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| The Challenger was a million part machine with 1 broken part that was missed by someone who wasn't perfect, without Mal intent. Accident. No, it definitely was not! They had the specifications, they had warnings, they had engineers begging them not to launch - and they did it anyway. Choice. They h... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:43 am
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| " Not according to the definition you quoted. Accidents are unexpectedly and unintentionally, not a choice. If they are preventable, then they aren't an accident. Look at the second definition you quoted: Quote: 2. an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:38 am
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| I like the apologizing and minimizing. The guy plead guilty, before trial- because he knew going to trial would still result in his being found guilty, which mean they (the crown) would be able to prove both actus reas and mens rea. Which negates your entire argument. And just because it's unexpect... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:29 am
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| All 7 of those things are momentary lapses in judgement or concentration. And any of them could result in an accident causing death. Choosing to be distracted is something like texting. Being distracted by a tarp that just started flapping, or a kid on the side of the road is life. ac·ci·dent /ˈaks... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:20 am
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| So then, he's not responsible for what he did. Guys! let him out of jail! It was an accident! I never said that. I specifically said 8 years was "about as fair as you're gonna get". Let's do a logic thought puzzle here. Imagine you decide to put your garbage outside during a storm and it ... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:15 am
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| The guy ran a stop sign. Stupid, stupid thing to do. He was distracted, possibly tired and whatever else, but it was the VERY definition of an accident. Anyone trying to argue otherwise is literally attempting to redefine the English meaning of the word. I'd bet both my nuts that not a single perso... |
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Forum: Current Events Topic: Truck driver who caused Humboldt Broncos bus crash gets 8-ye |
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:45 am
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| I really don't understand the insanity here. I understand the anger, and the desire for punishment. But this is about justice. The guy ran a stop sign. Stupid, stupid thing to do. He was distracted, possibly tired and whatever else, but it was the VERY definition of an accident. Anyone trying to arg... |
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