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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:44 am
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| Samuel, I am so hurt that you have lost the little credibility you afforded me. Is this a federalist or separatist site, Vive le Canada? Me thinks it's a pro-Canada/Quebec site, so I guess I should not be too upset that a separatist has lost the little credibility he so generously afforded me.<br... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:26 am
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| Samuel wrote: But here's the kicker, where were federalists of political affiliations other than Liberal when all this was going on? I'm not talking about the corruption part of it either. Where were all the level headed federalist to say "hey what the hell is going on Québec, this costly strategy w... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:06 am
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| All separatist movements eventually come to exhibit certain predictable intellectual pathologies - and the Quebec variant is no exception. George Orwell described these pathologies in his 1945 essay, Notes on Nationalism: <br /> <br /> By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of as... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:58 am
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| The selective treatment of facts by Quebec separatists<br /> <br /> There are certain arguments that Quebec separatist are happy to ignore. The premier example is the idea of partition. <br /> <br /> The partition argument advanced by federalists asserts that if Quebec is per... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:52 am
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| [QUOTE BY= Samuel] I copied and pasted this from the home page topics, it pretty much explains the whole incident. But even if the PQ had accepted money as a deposit for a government contract knowing it was propaganda funds to be used against it, what's immoral about that? It's not like it was known... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:28 am
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:24 am
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| [QUOTE BY= Samuel] That's just it Robert, you federalists have been "waiting" and doing nothing. Well, if using the issue to rip off Canadians is something legitimate, then yes, you've been doing something.<br /> <br /> The PQ had nothing to do with ADSCAM related funds, it has since bee... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:07 am
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| [QUOTE BY= Samuel] Afraid I disagree there Robert, just watch <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/wink.gif' alt='Wink'>[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I have been watching and waiting for 20 years. Canada is now prepared for any separatist referendum that may be held in the future. Cana... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:01 am
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Quebec will likely be a province of Quebec for my lifetime [/QUOTE]<br />
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Excusez, I meant to say Quebec will likely remain a province of CANADA for my lifetime, not a province of Quebec. |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:57 am
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| [QUOTE BY= Samuel] Here's the thing Robert, not only is your logic utopic, you are taking utopiasm to the extreme. What if within your 60% of Montrealers 40% of them are of a Pakistani ethnicity and want your mini Montreal/Canada to be New Pakistan?<br /> <br /> I understand your hate fo... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:52 am
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| Samuel, just for the record I am not "accusing" you of being utopic or anything else. You have a right to your dream of a separate nation carved out of the Canadian Province of Quebec. But please remember the majority of Canadians in Quebec do not share your dream and have a right to express their v... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:36 am
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| Samuel wrote: So using your logic above, we should simply plant the flag, declare sovereignty and to hell with consulting the people. Very democratic indeed, come on Robert you're the one accusing us of being "utopic".<br /> <br /> Well Samuel, that is exactly what Jacques Parizeau had i... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:34 am
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| Samuel wrote: I just explained to you that the North's population is roughly 500 000 of which a majority support soveignty. I agree that their democratic choice should be respected.<br /> <br /> And I just explained that the natives in the north would vote overwhelmingly against separati... |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:32 am
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| Sorry Sabstien, maybe I am overtired but I don't get your analogy.<br />
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So using your logic above, we should simply plant the flag, declare sovereignty and to hell with consulting the people. Very democratic indeed, come on Robert you're the one accusing us of being "utopic". |
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Forum: Canadian Provincial Politics Topic: PQ's looks to next referendum |
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:05 am
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| Samuel, if you believe in true democracy you would be in favor of the partition of Quebec since democratically you would not want to force Canadians living in say Montreal who voted 60 per cent against separation to live in a foreign country.<br /> <br /> I would disagree with you about ... |
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