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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:34 pm
Naomi always says things well.
I think I first started advocating what she's saying way back at the beginning of the first softwood lumber thing....I'm not special and it's nothing new, but people like Naomi, and Naomi herself have been saying this for a long time. Basically it amounts to, "Fuck them, they need us as much as we need them."
That doesn't always show up in the numbers the money-obsessed press and the business pundits give us every day, but I don't remember the press being so obsessed with money or the business news being so prominent before the Reagan/Thatcher/Mulroney triumvirate took the world and made it into a much worse place than it could have been.
We've been duped for more than twenty years now. It's time we talked back.
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polemarch1
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 9:08 am
Canada should have taken advantage of the situation. We should have told the Americans that we would fully support them in Iraq if the soft wood lumber dispuit was settled in are favour.
BTW I would also fight if Canada was invaded even if it was by the Americans 
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 10:22 am
polemarch1 polemarch1: Canada should have taken advantage of the situation. We should have told the Americans that we would fully support them in Iraq if the soft wood lumber dispuit was settled in are favour. BTW I would also fight if Canada was invaded even if it was by the Americans 
What trading possibly lives of our troops for a lumber deal???? I think NOT ! !
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electricbuford
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 2:14 pm
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BadAssBookie
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 10:05 am
To all you people saying we should have sided with the Americans, and now our influence in waning...
Did we ever have any influence??? The dispute about softwood lumber has been around for years and years. Lets look at some other areas. The Americans have publicly said they will not be satisfied until the wheat board is destroyed, pacific salmon, steel, PEI 'taters, etc....
Did we influence GW on the landmine treaty, the world court, ABM treaty???
You can't lose something you never had.
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TheDarkCanuck
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 12:34 pm
Look, the U.S needs us, we need the U.S. We're still gonna be best friends when everything is said and done. I don't think that the states are gonna ruin their economy and blow off their best allies over hurt feelings.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 3:31 pm
As a far as THAT article went, I'm ready to start working for his re-election, or replacement, or the pary! Christ, & the "toronto Star", no less. Pravda, oops, Torstar, is shall we say, just a BIT left-leaning. If I believed everything I just read about THIS govt. in THAT article, I'd be in dreamland!
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:32 pm
Mulroney? Why would this mans oppinion really matter. He gave us one sided free trade, the Airbus nightmare, forgave an 80 million dollar loan to the Carribean because it was their head of states birthday and I could go on but read "Mulroney a man on the take"
To say we should do what ever the US does is like answering the old question" if your friend jumped off a bridge would you" with a YES.
"Sitting on the fence" "Lester B Pearson" was the man responsible for peacekeeping forces, the first one in the Suez lead by a Canadian Major-Genral back in 1956 for this he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1957. Canada has since been seen as a peace keeping nation. This action was in fact broght on by"Sitting on the fence" not doing so would have put us in a situation of picking sides between UK and US interests. Not at all a bad result.
Military..Since the Libs gained power we have gone from 70,000 or so troups to 55,000 give or take a few..unacceptable period
Take up arms?...Canada has more weapons per capita then the US and you wonder if we would take up arms to defend her Tsk Tsk
PS another book that is food for thought "Exxoneration"
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:34 pm
Richard Richard: PS another book that is food for thought "Exxoneration"
Great book. 
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:34 pm
Re. thread title: One can only hope.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:36 pm
RoyalHighlander RoyalHighlander: polemarch1 polemarch1: Canada should have taken advantage of the situation. We should have told the Americans that we would fully support them in Iraq if the soft wood lumber dispuit was settled in are favour. BTW I would also fight if Canada was invaded even if it was by the Americans  What trading possibly lives of our troops for a lumber deal???? I think NOT ! !
In essence this is what we're doing.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:54 pm
lame
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:39 am
Holy necro lol
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