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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posts: 1433
Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:02 pm
Alright, I don't want to come off sounding too redundant, but I have to take up another issue with the "why Canada is number 1" section of this site. On that section it says that Canada has better technology than the US. I would like to know where the facts are which support this statement. Does Canada really have better technology than the US? I never knew they did, and I always thought that as developed nations, they both have probably equal amounts of good technology. Now, I'm taking this statement literally, in meaning if you went to Canada, everything as far as technology, like computers, medical equipment, cars, and whatever else is related to technology, would be better. If it was meant as a "Canada has created better technology than the US" then this should be how it was said, and I still think that would be false because an invention is an invention, and the US and Canada both have very groundbreaking inventions under their belt. Is this statement just an arrogant statement done out of spite, or does it actually hold facts behind it that Canada really does have better technology than the US?
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:15 pm
You have obviously missed the humor abundant in that entire section.
Lighten up, and yes, you do sound very much like a broken record.
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AdamNF
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:38 pm
Johnny you need to stop bitching about everything.
Though the guys at DARPA did invent GPS, stealth technology and the interent...not to shabby,
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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 4:35 pm
I was not trying to bitch, or cut anyone down. I just wanted to know where that statement came from. I took that section as a set of facts for why Canada is great. Maybe I got it wrong, and it was just a bunch of made up jabes at the US. You can't tell me that I need to lighten up, because I was never really that heated about this particular thread. Yet again you read a post from me and make these assumptions. I had read the why Canada is number 1 section, and I just wanted to know where that statement came from, because other statements are based on facts. I was not trying to offend anyone, I just wanted an answer to how this statement was made up. To each his own, and if I find something that I would like people to explain to me, without going into a big rant about how I should shut up and lighten up, I think I should be entitled to that. You can't even tell how I worded or went about my question, because as you should know, most of how people interpret things is from body language, which is lacking on the internet. If I want an honest answer to something, and want to ask a question about, I think I should be able to without patronizing responses....
No one has ever really answered anything I have asked about, they have just gone about making jabes at me and assumptions. I just want to know where the facts are between some of the lines. There's a few that are factually true, but for someone who doesn't know all the facts, it would be good if people didn't throw opinion in with facts because things get blurred.
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AdamNF
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Posts: 1134
Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 4:41 pm
Well PM the site admin or RH there the ones in charge of that stuff.
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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 4:44 pm
It doesn't bother me THAT much. Just bored, and wanted to know if others saw that and if it was true. I'm finished though, just something that WAS bothering me, but isn't anymore.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:26 pm
well ill have to say that a lot oif that could and is true, but a lot of it I think is also pure bull shit too LOL, so take it for what iots worth buddy... 
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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 7:28 pm
RoyalHighlander RoyalHighlander: well ill have to say that a lot oif that could and is true, but a lot of it I think is also pure bull shit too LOL, so take it for what iots worth buddy... 
Yeah, that's all I wanted to know... 
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UglyYank
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Posts: 151
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:58 am
It's all part of the game to get people feeling good about themselves.
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figfarmer
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Posts: 1682
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:06 am
I think technology is pretty much equal in most places in the developed world. I have noticed though, and this is born out by the fact that firms are constantly sending people to Canada to see "How we do it!", that what it takes fifteen Americans to do four Canadians can do better. It has to do with an American obsession with specialisation I believe. A lot of folks around here seem to be associated with the military and that is one of the most blatant examples I've seen, maintenance crews for fighter jets being the most obvious.
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 12:37 pm
I am a Canadian mechanical engineer working in the USA. I did not go looking for this job, I was happily employed in Alberta. They propositioned me...
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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 1:54 pm
figfarmer figfarmer: I think technology is pretty much equal in most places in the developed world. I have noticed though, and this is born out by the fact that firms are constantly sending people to Canada to see "How we do it!", that what it takes fifteen Americans to do four Canadians can do better. It has to do with an American obsession with specialisation I believe. A lot of folks around here seem to be associated with the military and that is one of the most blatant examples I've seen, maintenance crews for fighter jets being the most obvious.
And you don't think they ever send Canadians to the US to see how they do something? Give me a break, that isn't an example of how Canada has better technology, just an example of countries working together. I don't really have any facts to back up my statement, but from what I can tell, neither do you. I don't want to get into a debate or anything about the subject, but just because Americans go to Canada to see how some company does something, doesn't seem to mean that Canadians have better technology to me. I mean, the US, just like every other developed country, has been coming out with cutting edge technology in medical and so on. I just can't believe that it's only Americans who go to Canada to see how things are done. It's part of being a part of the developed nations. People from South Korea will come to the US to see how somethins done, Americans will go back, and so on with every country. The statement at hand was the line, "Canada has better technology than the US" which if you look at things that the military has created, and things which NASA has come up with, I would think that Canada has to have some super technology stuff packed away somewhere in order to be better than the US. I look at us as equal as far as countries technology goes.
Before you start pulling out inventions Canada has created, I never said Canada didn't have great technology, just that I don't think it's better than the US, I think it's equal. There doesn't seem a way to prove that one country has better technology than another to me. Can you please save the arrogant line "what it takes 15 Americans to do, 4 Canadians can do better". If you are going to say something like that, please give some sources which prove that it takes 15 Americans to do whatever 4 Canadians can do. Man, I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with you, because you obviously have a prejudice towards Americans. I was just trying to say we are all equal. I see no difference between a really smart American, and a really smart Canadian, and you can pull out stats which only prove demographics, but they don't mean much.
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:00 pm
figfarmer figfarmer: It has to do with an American obsession with specialisation I believe. A lot of folks around here seem to be associated with the military and that is one of the most blatant examples I've seen, maintenance crews for fighter jets being the most obvious.
disclaimer: The following is second-hand information. I have not served in either army but have worked with different folks who have served in both. This info came out of conversations with said people. (maybe RH can back me up?)
The American army is very specialized, you are trained in your task. Period.
If there are four American soldiers in a jeep, you've got:
- One driver
- One navigator
- One gunner
- One mechanic
With four Canadian soldiers in the jeep you would have:
- Four drivers
- Four navigators
- Four gunners
- Four mechanics
that's just an example type thing.
So yea, if that is the way everything is done, it would take a smaller number of Canadians to do the same job. I don't know what the advantages of being so specialized are, shorter/cheaper training maybe?
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figfarmer
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Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:34 pm
....you would notice that you are yipping off about things I never said. In fact, you quote me as saying one thing then act as if I have said the opposite. That isn't a clever debating trick.
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Posts: 1685
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 3:48 pm
$1: With four Canadian soldiers in the jeep you would have: - Four drivers - Four navigators - Four gunners - Four mechanics
None of whom can converse with each other.
Nice try Robair.
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