[Johnnybgoodaaaaa]

People can make surveys say whatever they want.

[Rev_Blair]

Yes they can, Johnny. That's why it's important to know who did the survey, who commissioned the survey, what the questions were, who wrote the questions, and who reviewed the questions.

[Johnnybgoodaaaaa]

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:

Godz poll...sponsored by friends of America

The Global/Leger poll that Godz referred to...discredited for tying non-related issues to BMD.

Meanwhile Georgie is too afraid of Canada to address Parliament the way a real foreign leader would. The small and unthinking Bush is even afraid to meet with all of the party leaders because he is terrified of hearing dissenting views, so Jack Jack sent him a
letter. Wanna bet the cowardly Bush does not even have the balls to respond to it?

Maybe Bush doesn't want to address parliament because they are rude. Look at when Reagen visited and they cut in while he was talking and heckeled him. Debating is one thing, but when the leaders of your country but in and mock a leader of another country, I see no reason in making that mistake twice....

I think you just want him to address parliament so that you can enjoy watching people mock him and be rude to him...

Although it's nice to see people act rude and mock Bush, I'm just trying to explain why he probably won't face them....

[Rev_Blair]

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Maybe Bush doesn't want to address parliament because they are rude. Look at when Reagen visited and they cut in while he was talking and heckeled him. Debating is one thing, but when the leaders of your country but in and mock a leader of another country, I see no reason in making that mistake twice....

If he's afraid of getting heckled, then he shouldn't come here.

$1:

David Frim (A Canadian who was on the speechwriting team at the time) denied that it was meant to be a snub at Canada in a townhall meeting in Detroit a few months later.

Frum, Godz...not "Frim". His mother was Barbara Frum...well known broadcaster and journalist for the CBC.

Frum knew perfectly what the protocols were. That's part of his job. It wasn't an oversight or a boo-boo, and it wasn't because Georgie was reaching out to the third world. It was a deliberate and calculated snub because the Bush camp did not like Jean Chretien.

[Scape]

Godz46 Godz46:

72 per cent of Canadians disgaree with you.

And 58% of Canadians disgaree with you.

I miss Barbara. Journalism took a real hit when she died of leukemia. Her last interview was with Mordecai Richler she died just 16 days later.

[Johnnybgoodaaaaa]

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:

$1:

Maybe Bush doesn't want to address parliament because they are rude. Look at when Reagen visited and they cut in while he was talking and heckeled him. Debating is one thing, but when the leaders of your country but in and mock a leader of another country, I see no reason in making that mistake twice....

If he's afraid of getting heckled, then he shouldn't come here.

$1:

David Frim (A Canadian who was on the speechwriting team at the time) denied that it was meant to be a snub at Canada in a townhall meeting in Detroit a few months later.

Frum, Godz...not "Frim". His mother was Barbara Frum...well known broadcaster and journalist for the CBC.

Frum knew perfectly what the protocols were. That's part of his job. It wasn't an oversight or a boo-boo, and it wasn't because Georgie was reaching out to the third world. It was a deliberate and calculated snub because the Bush camp did not like Jean Chretien.

Might not be that he's scared, just that he doesn't want to make a huge scene. Maybe his visit doesn't require him to visit the parliament, so why does he need to do so? Just to prove that he's not scared of being heckled? Seems kind of petty to me. I mean people come and visit Bush all the time and you don't see him taking them all to congress and the senate....

[human]

xerxes xerxes:

There was one crucial stat you forgot, over 2/3 of Canadians still think Bush is bad news for the rest of the world.

Al' Quad'a sleeping cells are not to be counted, or so I heard...

[human]

Pandora Pandora:

I just have to say although Bush is a war monger and he is sticking his nose where it def dont belong. I dont agree with much of what bush has done but our country aint that much better really ! Look at our gov they are cutting of programs that are needed and lining their pockets when the people are Well most are living below poverty line!! And no most of those arent on welfare but are working class poor ! Wtf!! I think we should all concentrate on our country befor we worry about what others are doing ! Sorry for this rant but this is my 2 cents

Your 2 cents weight enrmosly if we all concentrate on our country, but then what can we do with the sleeping cells that want us to concentrate on theirs?

[human]

Scape Scape:

Ipsos-Reid poll: 69% opposed our participation in missile defence

Your argument is what again, your not extreme? You advocate what the majority of Canadians want correct? Looks like a trust issue, I don't buy it. Anti-American is not anti-Bush or anti-globalization. Do you require definitions?

Anti-American never was Canadian either, even when the Trudaurian link was in charge; Do you require definitions?

They are called Al' Quad'a sleeping cells...

[human]

QBCguy QBCguy:

Godz, do you live on that computer of yours or do you talk to people out in the real world? Living in BC and working with the general public, I talk to a very vast cross section of people. I know that here in BC MOST people are pretty pissed at the US. With the HUGE loss of jobs caused by the illegal softwood lumber duties the US has inflicted on us, and not paying their gas and hydro bill and not caring if their fisherman whipe out the Pacific Salmon, I can safely say that the US has screwed us every chance they got. Why don't you ask the nations ranchers how they feel about the US. That our beef can't go south cause of ONE cow, but let they've found TWO in the US and nothing has happened about that. Ask yourself why it's taken Georgie boy a few years to thank Canadians for bringing US people into their homes after their flights were diverted because of 9/11, or for any of the help we gave or offered during that time.

The US is a trading partner at best and one that only pays the bills it wants to. If they were a person and that person thought nothing of you and took advantage of you at every turn, would you call that person a friend?

QBCguy,


Helping people in distress is the very Canadian thing to do without the slightest expectation of thanks; however, the USA ambassador to Canada was very fluent in passing the American people’s appreciation and gratitude. Now if GWB wanted to thank us again, and some of your grand majesty wanted to call it late thanks, then it is in your agenda to say such thing. Beyond that there were always trade Issues between us and the USA that is influenced by their side of nation’s ranchers, lumberjacks, and steel giants; therefore we can’t expect them to solve these problems according to the way we see it.

Why?

Because we are not Arabs who wants it solved either their way or the highway.

Friendship and business partnership are different issues, so before you start the mixology and the merging process maybe you should understand the difference…

[Rev_Blair]

$1:

Might not be that he's scared, just that he doesn't want to make a huge scene. Maybe his visit doesn't require him to visit the parliament, so why does he need to do so? Just to prove that he's not scared of being heckled? Seems kind of petty to me. I mean people come and visit Bush all the time and you don't see him taking them all to congress and the senate....

Nixon was unpopular here, so was Reagan. They stood up and gave their addresses to Parliament. Fox is certainly more to the right than half of the Liberal Party, and all of the NDP and Bloc MPs. He gave his address to Parliament.

It is something that foreign leaders traditionally do when they visit this country.

Because of the US system of government there are different traditions.

$1:

The poll was not discredited.

Yes it was.

$1:

Unfuckingbelievable!!! 9 days after the biggest terrorist attack on American soil, boddies were still smoking in New York underneath the rubble.

All that and he made a point of thanking everybody but the country who them most that day.

There are no accidents in international diplomacy, Godz.

[human]

Scape Scape:

Rogue state not terrorist. Albeit by the definition of terrorism Bush can certainly be seen as the major contributor to terrorist activities if you define them as the use of violence against noncombatants for the purpose of achieving a political goal. This is why body counts are not kept in Iraq for the sole purpose of validating this. You drop a 2,000 lbs bomb in a city your going to kill civilians. You might want to ask yourself what went wrong?Now you can excuse the act of violence, but it is still an act of violence. You can say the acts of torture are the acts of a few but it is still a crime and you can say your rebuilding Iraq but you still have the real power and prevent farmers from saving their seeds and hand over the seed market to transnational corporations which can credibly be argued as excessive. 3,000 died on 9/11 yet that price in blood has been paid in full in Afghanistan but the war goes on. Until when? Who must die, what Capitol must be captured, what nation must fall? That is extreme, war without end.

Scape,

For you to define terrorism as GWB’s action must be as easy as reading your Al’Qua’Ada manual, while veiling it with articles from the deceived by his majesty the collective of hate and the denialist of the liberalism of fools for the purpose of achieving your political goal of destroying as much as you can from our will of stopping you before your Caliph Osama can finish us off, isn’t it?

But then if the body counts are not kept in Iraq; then your boss Zarqawi’s call will create more opportunity for him to kill more Iraqis than any one can count because it seems like as an Al’Qua’Ada sleeping member, you are forgetting the fact that what your boss Zarqawi kill in one of his bombs is as 20x 2,000 lbs bomb dropped on his coward killers that you are calling civilians, just because they are only supporters like you, isn’t it?

You might want to ask yourself what is wrong here. Now you can excuse the genocide against the Iraqis that Zarqawi is doing and call it an “act of violence” , but it is still a genocide when it comes to talk about either America or GWB, isn’t it your majesty?

You can say the acts of torture are the acts of a few on the American side, but it is still a crime; however the missionary act of killing infidels in the name of “Allah” and seek SHIHADA should be considered a merely act of becoming a better Moslem through Jihad because Jihad is the fifth pillar of Islam, and you can’t discriminate against us if we want to become a complete Moslems, do you?

$1:

3,000 died on 9/11 yet that price in blood has been paid in full in Afghanistan but the war goes on.

Wow… you even know how much we are worth, but let me tell you this, until terror will be eradicated from the entire world; the people who killed the close to 3,000 people still own those people and us the gratitude of finishing them off with their Jihad.

Until when with this extreme, war without end?

Until you abrogate your books to read all humans deserve to live as non-Moslems as Moslem, and I know that you can’t do that because your books are a taboo to you and everyone else.

But then I might be wrong, you tell me?

[human]

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:

Godz poll...sponsored by friends of America

The Global/Leger poll that Godz referred to...discredited for tying non-related issues to BMD.

Meanwhile Georgie is too afraid of Canada to address Parliament the way a real foreign leader would. The small and unthinking Bush is even afraid to meet with all of the party leaders because he is terrified of hearing dissenting views, so Jack Jack sent him a
letter. Wanna bet the cowardly Bush does not even have the balls to respond to it?

Rev_Blair,


Addressing the Parliament is always initiated by the visitor, and not enforced by the protocol of the visit's schedule, so take an aspirin and sleep on your ill knowledge because you may get unthinkingly inspired by a dream of truth; though I doubt it.

Beside, if Canada does not share his views, I can’t see why he should address its parliament and create a favourable ground to the opposition. Addressing a parliament has its political protocol, but for you to understand that, you have to understand politic…

I know, it’s an impossible task for your majesty.